68 billion dollar high speed rail from LA to San Fran... (Fresno: loans, transferring to)

[leonard]

Originally Posted by nullgeo

I fly naked in my dreams ... why not reality?

I did NOT need that mental image.

[nullgeo]

Originally Posted by leonard

I did NOT need that mental image.

Think Pegasus ... the fillies love me ... Hollywood calls daily ...

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by citynomad

I wouldn't reply to comments.

That's because everything you've stated has been royally debunked.

If I were you, I wouldnt reply either.

[leonard]

Originally Posted by nullgeo

Think Pegasus ... the fillies love me ... Hollywood calls daily ...

You look like a white hairy horse with wings and a big nose??? OK, that I can handle

[1AngryTaxPayer]

The only monorail we can afford

[ZhugeLiang]

Originally Posted by citynomad

I wouldn't reply to comments. It's a WASTE of time. It's done. Sorry Naysayers. YOU HAVE LOST!!

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. But what happens in California, happens in America.

Thanks California!

High speed rail is coming to America!

Looks like someone is vacating the discussion now that their horrid logic and talking points have been completely torn to shreds.

[Think4Yourself]

America's transport infrastructure: Life in the slow lane | The Economist

A great article from a very creditable source about why America's infrastructure is the worst in the 1st world, getting further behind, and what needs to change to turn things around.

[HereOnMars]

Originally Posted by Think4Yourself

America's transport infrastructure: Life in the slow lane | The Economist

A great article from a very creditable source about why America's infrastructure is the worst in the 1st world, getting further behind, and what needs to change to turn things around.

Good article and the readers' comments following are also pretty interesting.

[Leonard64]

Originally Posted by Think4Yourself

America's transport infrastructure: Life in the slow lane | The Economist

A great article from a very creditable source about why America's infrastructure is the worst in the 1st world, getting further behind, and what needs to change to turn things around.

The problem with any comparison with Western Europe is that each country is so much smaller than the US, that the data is not really of comparable value.

Example:

"Americans spend considerably more time commuting than most Europeans;"

Yep as we have further to drive and have NO real internal rail systems, except for maybe NY. LA doesn't as it is too spread out, where European cities with the exception of Paris, are compact. They have had the population and need, especially after WWII when gas was in short supply, so public transportation was the only real option. In the US we were still spreading out and there was not enough money on earth to connect all the cities by rail as was done in Europe. Still isn't.

Remember if we combined the UK and France, the population and area would be far smaller than the US. We can't judge this country's abilities to have good rail service with smaller denser populated countries that needed such and started linking the cities about 200 years ago.

[18Montclair]

Dont know if this has been posted yet, but this is excellent:

New bullet train plan ‘mangled,’ perhaps illegal, ex-rail booster says
By Lance Williams - California Watch
By Lance Williams The Fresno Bee
Wednesday, Jul. 11, 2012 | 12:01 AM Modified Wed, Jul 11, 2012 02:44 PM

Even as the state Senate voted last week to approve California's $68 billion high-speed rail plan, opponents pressed forward on a Kings County lawsuit to stop the controversial construction project.

Former California High-Speed Rail Authority Chairman Quentin Kopp, who led a 20-year fight for the bullet train, said he believes this latest lawsuit poses a real threat.

The compromise high-speed rail plan crafted by Gov. Jerry Brown and approved Friday is a "mangled" -- and probably illegal -- version of the project state voters enacted in a 2008 initiative, Kopp said.

"They have distorted high-speed rail and twisted it into (providing) money for commuter rail services," he said.

Kopp is not a party to the suit but said he was familiar with its assertions. His comments are of note because for decades -- first as a San Francisco legislator and then as rail authority chairman -- he was among California's leading advocates for high-speed rail.

MOD CUT

Read more here: New bullet train plan ‘mangled,’ perhaps illegal, ex-rail booster says - High Speed Rail - fresnobee.com



So basically what's being purchased is NOT what voters agreed to pay for.