Is California the welfare capital? (Los Angeles, Ross: how much, buying, schools)
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hey, if you still have all your teeth...you're doing well! that was the first thing i noticed when i moved here... so many people with missing teeth! you said something about fluoride conspiracy theories awhile back but i didn't know if you were being serious or not. i grew up with hetch hetchy water (with fluoride). some of the best water around.
hey, if you still have all your teeth...you're doing well! that was the first thing i noticed when i moved here... so many people with missing teeth! you said something about fluoride conspiracy theories awhile back but i didn't know if you were being serious or not. i grew up with hetch hetchy water (with fluoride). some of the best water around.
Don't think it was me talking about fluoride ...
Anyway, I do have some teeth left -- though a bunch got knocked out a couple times when I was leading with my face ... ancient history ... just takes me longer than most people to eat my plateful.
Don't think it was me talking about fluoride ...
Anyway, I do have some teeth left -- though a bunch got knocked out a couple times when I was leading with my face ... ancient history ... just takes me longer than most people to eat my plateful.
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The welfare system is a joke. There are people whop were born into a welfare lifestyle who will never do anything to get themselves out of that system because it is eaiser to get everything you need from uncle sam then to try and get a job. There are immigrants that came here last week that are able to get welfare/foodstamp/cash assitance/section 8 housing. I work in a Grocery store and I see immigrants come in and pay with food stamps and cash assistance cards all day long. They husbands will be wearing employee badges from some of the biggest internet companies in the silicon valley and drive away in a new suv/hybrid. I also see the pos welfare people who have nice jewlery new iphones and coach handbags that use their foodstamps and welfare cash cards to by alcohol and ciggarettes and pull $100's of dollars out with their cash assitance cards driving nice new cars. i work for a living and drive a 10 year old truck I bought used. Noone pays my mortgage/house payment for me I have to buy my own food.
Arguably NYC is a far more sclerotic welfare state than CA
But as much as CA's confused taxpayers/voters can be mocked for the idiot commie politicians they choose (again no worse than the commies in NYC/NJ/CT/IL)....vast majority of wealthiest in CA are relatively young engineers/entrepreneurs in SV, many of whom aren't originally from CA but chose to migrate here as poor students from some middle-income home often in suburban US somewhere...and are now amongst the top <1% of earners and taxpayers
CA is a remarkably dynamic and self-selecting economy, continually attracting ambitious immigrants from RoW as well as kids from all over US who will migrate to wherever are best yuppie jobs/careers/lifestyles....life is a two-way dynamic in many senses...and many major taxpayers don't waste time w/voting....far more efficient to donate to whichever community organizer if one is incensed after one is semi-retired when have chance to consider what nonsense goes on in gvt spending in a welfare state
By most metrics, incomes in SV are 2x NYC (in comparable SV careers), yet COL in SV is <50% that of Manhattan....mkt sorts itself out by individual self-interest despite attempts of idiot central planners or blame games of idiot underachievers who may want to blame others/society for their own lack of achievement/upward mobility
30-40yrs ago, engineers were rather poorly paid/obsoleting professionals vs entertainers/MDs/JDs/stockbrokers/salesguys, etc....today, large % of world's wealthiest and youngest are engineers/entrepreneurs....in many ways, would argue US economy today is more productive and self-made than at any time in its history, despite masses of unskilled, lazy welfare parasites who work in gvt or other rent-seeking industries...life is a cyclic, relative value game in many ways
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Thats really offensive. Are you seriously suggesting that all people who work in government or "rent seeking industries" are lazy, unskilled welfare parasites??
There are many career paths that simply don't have much opportunity outside the public sector.
Hello, education!! Are teachers unskilled, lazy welfare parasites?
Not everyone is meant to be engineers and entrepreneurs.
I hate to say it but unless you make over $250,000 per year then you're just not that bright because the tax difference is negligible. The total difference in taxes between supposedly "high tax" California and supposedly "low tax" Texas is just 2 base points. Further more California's still make more than Texans too so your total after tax take home is actually larger in California.
Yeah, but they wouldn't be able to have a mansion big enough to fit their whole extended family in, with five acres to turf grass designed to look like a horse ranch, with a motorboat in the garage that is never used, etc if they stayed in California.
I believe in some kind of safety net for the poor, kids and disabled. But is the system broken? I have sided with Democrats on a lot of issues but I am starting to be swayed by Republican arguments. Republicans have their their version of corporate welfare as well. Both parties are in it for votes, Dems want unions, lawyers and the poor to vote for them and Republicans work for the rich corporations. The average voter continues to get dumber on issues by corporate media. Opinion passes as news.
I have seen people on welfare driving nice cars with fancy purses and iphones. They give you attitude when things don't go their way or when their "benefits" don't buy what they want. There is no humility and shame anymore. People plan on staying on this system by having multiple kids even though they cannot provide the best for the existing ones. What happened to taking some responsibility? The housing bubble was not only caused by banks lending money to people who couldn't afford it, it was also the fault of people who don't know how to manage their finances. So now are in this mess, stuck with properties that have been devalued even if you the right thing and bought within your means. Collectively screwed.
The middle class have it worse. Our wages have been stagnant for last few decades while corporate profits continue to increase. All those gains in productivity due to technology continue to swell the wealth of the Forbes 400. Isn't 80% of the stock market owned by 20%? Now these same people will buy up properties for pennies on the dollar and there will be further concentration of wealth. I would hate to see the The American dream become a dream.
I used to sell Medicare Advantage products in Calif and was exposed to Medi-Medi recipients and their often demanding ways. I stayed away from them because they usually disenrolled after a month or two. When I moved to Texas in 2005, I noticed some differences right off the bat. In Calif, 2004, I believe, Gov Wilson and legislature imposed a 6 rx per month limit for medi-cal recipients. When I got to Tex, they only allowed 3 rx per month. Calif also offered free dental until 2009. Tex did not offer that. The Calif safety net has always been broader than that of other states, bottom line. I remember when the Wilson admin attempted to pay less welfare aid in less costly counties in response to the lower costs of those counties. i.e., Why would a person in Kern county receive the same benefit as someone in Los Angeles county when costs are so different? It was struck down unfortunately. Calif could learn a lot from other states when it comes to how they distribute their welfare programs.
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I've got free dental ... excellent dental ... through the VA ... lot of the damage was from service ... so they --er-- you all -- pay for my teeth ... and don't think I don't appreciate it thanks muchly ... but there was also damage that can't rightly be fully repaired
The welfare system is a joke. There are people whop were born into a welfare lifestyle who will never do anything to get themselves out of that system because it is eaiser to get everything you need from uncle sam then to try and get a job. There are immigrants that came here last week that are able to get welfare/foodstamp/cash assitance/section 8 housing. I work in a Grocery store and I see immigrants come in and pay with food stamps and cash assistance cards all day long. They husbands will be wearing employee badges from some of the biggest internet companies in the silicon valley and drive away in a new suv/hybrid. I also see the pos welfare people who have nice jewlery new iphones and coach handbags that use their foodstamps and welfare cash cards to by alcohol and ciggarettes and pull $100's of dollars out with their cash assitance cards driving nice new cars. i work for a living and drive a 10 year old truck I bought used. Noone pays my mortgage/house payment for me I have to buy my own food.
You are seriously uninformed ... I suggest you get an education about the welfare system that you think you know so much about through your anecdotal observations ... sweeping floors in a grocery store and seeing people with food stamps doesn't mean jack in relation to the scope of the system. Here's a sampler that scratches the surface ... read:
I never said that the systems didn't offer a safety net to some people. But truely it is abused by a large number of people. I don't really take articles and studies too seriously if they are written by self serving liberals working at a supposed "non-partisan" nonprofit institue whose major contributers are liberals, communist nations and socialist countries.
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Originally Posted by nullgeo
You are seriously uninformed ... I suggest you get an education about the welfare system that you think you know so much about through your anecdotal observations ... sweeping floors in a grocery store and seeing people with food stamps doesn't mean jack in relation to the scope of the system. Here's a sampler that scratches the surface ... read:
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... but there was also damage that can't rightly be fully repaired 
