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Old 08-03-2012, 11:02 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Originally Posted by ZhugeLiang View Post
It's a good thing then that only conservative partisanship is guilty of this. You sound like the political equivalent of someone who just cut off four lanes of traffic because you were texting a friend about what a bad driver everyone else is.
If you read this post out loud, it sounds like a train wreck. What in God's name are you taking about?

 
Old 08-03-2012, 12:26 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Originally Posted by Gentoo

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See the conservative machine works on fear.
It's a good thing then that only conservative partisanship is guilty of this. You sound like the political equivalent of someone who just cut off four lanes of traffic because you were texting a friend about what a bad driver everyone else is.
Fear is the basis for conservatism, that is fact, not opinion. PoliSci 101. The second two sentences make no sense whatever.
 
Old 08-03-2012, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Police State
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Fear is the basis for conservatism,
Appeal to one's fears is the basis for those lacking a good argument. Political philosophy has nothing to do with it. But only a rational, objective, thinking person would understand this. You're both getting called out on double-speak and you're both attempting to double down on it. Admit to yourselves that you both made foolish comments and move on.
 
Old 08-03-2012, 12:32 PM
 
Location: North Oakland
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ZhugeLiang, you've said over and over you're not a Republican. Yet you're always defending them. Why don't' you just admit you're embarrassed to be apart of that train wreck in name.
 
Old 08-03-2012, 12:34 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Originally Posted by ZhugeLiang View Post
Appeal to one's fears is the basis for those lacking a good argument. Political philosophy has nothing to do with it. But only a rational, objective, thinking person would understand this. You're both getting called out on double-speak and you're both attempting to double down on it. Admit to yourselves that you both made foolish comments and move on.
No, apparently you are unfamiliar with the psychology of conservatism.

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Four researchers who culled through 50 years of research literature about the psychology of conservatism report that at the core of political conservatism is the resistance to change and a tolerance for inequality, and that some of the common psychological factors linked to political conservatism include:

Fear and aggression
Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity
Uncertainty avoidance
Need for cognitive closure
Terror management
"From our perspective, these psychological factors are capable of contributing to the adoption of conservative ideological contents, either independently or in combination," the researchers wrote in an article, "Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition," recently published in the American Psychological Association's Psychological Bulletin.
 
Old 08-03-2012, 12:36 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Yeah right, you're playing the fool like that Bradley imbecile. Don't talk like him, you're better than that.
Then do explain why we went into what with Iraq when everyone but the conservatives knew there were no WMD's. They fear mongered there way into that war. In no way was Iraq associated with Al Qaeda. However they used fear to make those who weren't smart enough to ask questions and use critical thinking support them. Only to find out later it was a waste. Not saying Saddam Hussein was a good person by any stretch but anyone with just a little intellectual curiosity would have quickly learned that he didn't tolerate terrorist in Iraq. But instead, the decision was made based on beliefs, not facts just as highnlight frequently points out. This is just one such example.
 
Old 08-03-2012, 12:37 PM
 
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No, apparently you are unfamiliar with the psychology of conservatism.

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The key words that eliminate it having much value:

""From our perspective, these psychological factors are capable of contributing to the adoption of conservative ideological contents,"

OK without whatever 'their" prospective is, which isn't stated(?), it is simply "capable" but not necessarily a part of....

Really the same could be said of BOTH extremes, left and Right.

"Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity
Uncertainty avoidance
Need for cognitive closure
Terror management"
 
Old 08-03-2012, 12:47 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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That was one quick quote, there is tons more research on the subject.
Tell me, who is more likely to have a gun for home protection?
Who is more likely to have a burglar alarm system?
Who is more likely to fear muslims (a few years ago it was commies, today it is muslims)
Who is more likely to claim the Secretary of States aide is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood?
Who is more likely to fear the impact of illegals?

Who is more likely to fear? Conservatives.

and... for the bonus point, who is more likely to listen to, and believe in, the claptrap on talk radio?

Hierarchical thinking is another characteristic of the Conservative, they like leaders, they follow leaders, they need leaders.

They attempt to ascribe the same psychological operants to normal people, and cannot quite get their heads around the fact that these psychological traits are what makes a conservative, not what makes normal people.
 
Old 08-03-2012, 01:00 PM
 
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Originally Posted by .highnlite View Post
That was one quick quote, there is tons more research on the subject.
Tell me, who is more likely to have a gun for home protection?
Who is more likely to have a burglar alarm system?
Who is more likely to fear muslims (a few years ago it was commies, today it is muslims)
Who is more likely to claim the Secretary of States aide is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood?
Who is more likely to fear the impact of illegals?

Who is more likely to fear? Conservatives.

and... for the bonus point, who is more likely to listen to, and believe in, the claptrap on talk radio?

Hierarchical thinking is another characteristic of the Conservative, they like leaders, they follow leaders, they need leaders.

They attempt to ascribe the same psychological operants to normal people, and cannot quite get their heads around the fact that these psychological traits are what makes a conservative, not what makes normal people.
The last line explains it all.

Liberals are NORMAL and everyone who disagrees is a Conservative and NOT Normal.

That sure explains a lot about what is now viewed as "Normal" behavior.

The list I could put together of Liberal obsessions/fears and Libertarian such would be just as funny and just as meaningless as the above.
 
Old 08-03-2012, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Police State
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ZhugeLiang, you've said over and over you're not a Republican. Yet you're always defending them. Why don't' you just admit you're embarrassed to be apart of that train wreck in name.
I'm always defending them? You should try rereading my comments in this thread. There are convoys of truckloads of criticism for Republicans out there, but other than my post earlier in this thread, there hasn't been a lot of other legitimate gripes cited thus far, other than cliches and complaining about the same exact things that Democrats have done and continue to do.

It really is a shame that people here refuse to accept anything besides the left vs. right paradigm. There are other viewpoints that exist if you're willing to explore them.

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Originally Posted by .highnlite View Post
No, apparently you are unfamiliar with the psychology of conservatism.

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Why would any of this matter coming form someone who doesn't know what they're talking about nullgeo....oops, I meant "highnlite?." Try sticking to one account.
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