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Old 08-16-2012, 10:26 AM
 
Location: California / Maryland / Cape May
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Outstanding! Thanks for posting. The Farm project, giving the elderly a productive role and place in the community is as good as community projects get. Outstanding.

Funny, for all of human history and pre-history, until the 1930's when American Social Security began to take shape, the elderly were valued as family -- and community -- contributors for the most part. And now, in less than 100 years out of 100's of thousands of years, the elderly are increasingly warehoused, useless. Visited on alternate weekends and taken out for a lunch. Prior to Social Security, the aging population had roles and value. Now our culture places emphasis on independence from supporting the very core of our development: the ones that brought us into the world and nurtured us. This Arroyo Grande Farm project puts meaning back into lives of immense past contribution.
I also think it has a lot to do with a breakdown of the nuclear family.

In older generations of my culture, family is tight, you care for one another, you are encouraged to live with family until marriage even as an adult, etc., etc. Despite that I was the rebel teen that moved out at 17yo, I remained the primary caretaker of my family and was closer with my family than any of my cousins (even though they lived, in some cases, with their parents or in their parent's guest house right next door!).

As incomes go up, families often spread out and want their "own" space.

As old traditions are lost, so are some family traditions and values.

As younger generations become fully fluent in English, there is less of a reliance on people from your home country, which is typically your family and those you moved to this country with (so you typically reside close to one another, and that keeps those family bonds tight).

It actually makes me extremely sad (and, admittedly, sometimes angry) to see this change in our society / families, and how the senior generations are so often forgotten or pushed to the side because younger generations no longer see value in them.

I go to local nursing homes and hear heartbreaking stories from residents of how they have children that never visit them. How do those children sleep at night? I can't even fathom that. (I try not to judge since there are two sides to every story, but I'm only human, so I do get upset.)

Thank goodness for programs such as this one to fill the gap, when needed! I hope to locate one nearby!
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Quimper Peninsula
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As you saw, some of the folks are in wheelchairs, the whole farm is wheelchair accessible. Some of the folks with alzheimers or dementia who cannot care for themselves know exactly what to do when a watering can is put in their hands, that is profound.

Some of the folks who have sat, depressed, for years are now happy gardeners.

My wife tells me that one of the very striking things about the program is that you hear laughter. If any of you have spent time at an assisted living center, laughter among the folk is not all that common.

My spouse works with elderly... I donate plants every spring for the patients to grow and tend too..

I have my 83 year old paraplegic mother visiting this week, she will enjoy this much.

From the bottom of my heart, I am impressed, and moved by the project in AG!!!!!

IMO the lack of feeling worth while is the #1 thing that brings elderly down...

Now of course Null would have them out hunting or collecting wild edibles instead.....
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Old 08-16-2012, 06:04 PM
 
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My spouse works with elderly... I donate plants every spring for the patients to grow and tend too..

I have my 83 year old paraplegic mother visiting this week, she will enjoy this much.

From the bottom of my heart, I am impressed, and moved by the project in AG!!!!!

IMO the lack of feeling worth while is the #1 thing that brings elderly down...

Now of course Null would have them out hunting or collecting wild edibles instead.....
Nah ... but I would certainly think they could at least gum the hides to make them supple ...
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Old 08-16-2012, 06:44 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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I talked with two friends last night who have parents in assisted living, both said their parent or parents are too busy having fun to call them! I don't know if that is somewhat unique to our area. With our mild climate it is easy for old folks to be outside year round.

I don't want a lot, a trailer in a large field full of ground squirrels, a .22 rifle, cases of my favorite fake beer, and a 19 year old French nurse (female)
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Old 08-16-2012, 06:48 PM
 
Location: California / Maryland / Cape May
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Calm down pops. I'm simply adding to the ebb and flow of a topic that, up to this point, is blessedly non-partisan isn't about taxes or the demise of California. In other words, I thought I'd chip in rather than ignore it like I do those others.
Amen!
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Old 08-16-2012, 09:23 PM
 
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I talked with two friends last night who have parents in assisted living, both said their parent or parents are too busy having fun to call them! I don't know if that is somewhat unique to our area. With our mild climate it is easy for old folks to be outside year round.

I don't want a lot, a trailer in a large field full of ground squirrels, a .22 rifle, cases of my favorite fake beer, and a 19 year old French nurse (female)
#6. Steady supply of viagra.

Someone had to say it.
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Old 08-16-2012, 09:29 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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#6. Steady supply of viagra.

Someone had to say it.
Don't need it...... I had to say that!
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Old 08-27-2012, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Northern Colorado
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In other news, Arroyo Grande just recently had Petco and Pier 1 Imports open next to Trader Joes and with plans for another 15,000 sq. ft. building.

Not to mention Smart N Final Extra are opening up where Scolari's was and a new 10,000 sq. ft. market is planned in downtown.

Oh and not too long some apartments started construction on the edge of the city. And the election was cancelled for Arroyo Grande since no one contested the city council.

Last year plans for a private adventist school got approval to expand their school and Coastal Christian got OKd to build a new larger campus in Pismo Beach.

Catch my drift? Christians and Right-winged beliefs exist in South County.

For more information check out the East Grand Avenue Plan and the General Plan for more planned development:

http://www.arroyogrande.org/static/u...ents/egaep.pdf

General Plan | City of Arroyo Grande
http://www.arroyogrande.org/static/u...an/housing.pdf
http://www.arroyogrande.org/static/u...evelopment.pdf
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Old 08-27-2012, 05:04 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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In other news, Arroyo Grande just recently had Petco and Pier 1 Imports open next to Trader Joes and with plans for another 15,000 sq. ft. building.

Not to mention Smart N Final Extra are opening up where Scolari's was and a new 10,000 sq. ft. market is planned in downtown.

Oh and not too long some apartments started construction on the edge of the city. And the election was cancelled for Arroyo Grande since no one contested the city council.

Last year plans for a private adventist school got approval to expand their school and Coastal Christian got OKd to build a new larger campus in Pismo Beach.

Catch my drift? Christians and Right-winged beliefs exist in South County.

For more information check out the East Grand Avenue Plan and the General Plan for more planned development:

http://www.arroyogrande.org/static/u...ents/egaep.pdf

General Plan | City of Arroyo Grande
http://www.arroyogrande.org/static/u...an/housing.pdf
http://www.arroyogrande.org/static/u...evelopment.pdf

You have become quite the puissant, I paean your posts.
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Old 08-27-2012, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Northern Colorado
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You have become quite the puissant, I paean your posts.
.highnlite,

Good sir I am just stating facts. My honest intentions are to give people the correct perception of the community.

Regads,

the city
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