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Old 04-20-2013, 02:27 PM
 
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Peet's Coffee. Their shops have a much nicer ambience, and the coffee's better, plus they sell a wide selection of teas. It's a teahouse as well as a coffeeshop. Gotta love Peet's.




Of course, the local bakery would probably do just as well, if it has seating, and coffee/tea.

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Old 04-20-2013, 02:55 PM
 
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Unlike SLO with three malls and eight Starbucks. Guess survival's a given.

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Old 04-20-2013, 05:22 PM
 
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Oh, about as much as your claiming SLO as one of your demociles in one of your two dozen iterations has to do with the price of artichokes in China.

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Old 04-20-2013, 05:23 PM
 
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Given that California is a state with 13 million residents and that real estate is priced by the law of supply-and-demand, you know that you're looking for land that almost no one else would want. I think the question is what features of low-demand real estate are you willing to accept:

-harsh climate?
-extremely remote location?
-no water supply?
-no availability of public utilities?
-failed perc test for private septic system?
-not zoned for residential use/low probability for building permit?
-no existing roadway access?

Residentially-zoned land that cheap anywhere on the West Coast is going to be severely handicapped by SOMETHING. This isn't Montana. As a general principle though, the farther north, the farther east and the more rural you go, the more affordable an undeveloped parcel will be (i.e, something that is technically in California but close to the Oregon, Nevada or Arizona border). Remember that bringing a completely undeveloped parcel up to buildable standards could cost an additional $100-200k.



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The last time California had 13 Million residents was 1955.
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Old 04-20-2013, 05:29 PM
 
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Yeah, these earthships look cool also. Development on the cheap. I like my house, but an earthship in the high desert can work also."Earthship Biotecture": Renegade New Mexico Architect
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Old 04-20-2013, 06:13 PM
 
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Yeah, these earthships look cool also. Development on the cheap. I like my house, but an earthship in the high desert can work also."Earthship Biotecture": Renegade New Mexico Architect
Look like they're made for Hobbits.
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Old 04-20-2013, 06:17 PM
 
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To each their own.
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Old 04-20-2013, 06:27 PM
 
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To each their own.
Tha was not meant pejoratively. I think they're quite fascinating and could be fun.

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Old 04-20-2013, 07:01 PM
 
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Yeah, these earthships look cool also. Development on the cheap. I like my house, but an earthship in the high desert can work also."Earthship Biotecture": Renegade New Mexico Architect
I've been in one of those, one built back in the 60's or 70's: adobe, half below-ground. They're pretty well-designed. You'd think they'd be cavelike and claustrophobic, but they're not. And they stay nice and cool, which is a boon in the hot summers in the SW, and they heat up in no time with a woodstove. And they have a big glass-enclosed garden in front, for growing plants, that can be used as a vegetable greenhouse. I didn't see the ones in the video, they seem to be at the end of the program. I'll take a look later. Reading about the "renegade architect", it sounds like he uses all manner of alternative materials. He's not the same architect as designed the first ones in the 70's.
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:18 PM
 
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Tha was not meant pejoratively. I think they're quite fascinating and could be fun.
Cool. They look interesting for sure.
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