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Old 04-26-2013, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Sierraville
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Too dry and barren. ^^^
Dry? , Not neccessarily, , barren? not really. Here, a canyon in Death Valley
A tourist from Ohio once told Ed Abbey during his tenure at Arches National Monument, that the landscape would be great if it only had water, Ed responded, if it had water, it would be no different than Ohio
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Old 04-26-2013, 06:55 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Beautiful photo!

Barren, meaning: lacking in trees. I require tall trees, like cedars, Ponderosa pines or redwoods. It's bad enough here in NM, with these stubby little desert junipers. The first photo you posted is just bare earth.
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Old 04-26-2013, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Sierraville
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Beautiful photo!

Barren, meaning: lacking in trees. I require tall trees, like cedars, Ponderosa pines or redwoods. It's bad enough here in NM, with these stubby little desert junipers. The first photo you posted is just bare earth.

One can prefer trees, but, that does not mean that a treeless area is barren. The desert does have barren areas, but in actuality the desert supports a wide range of life forms. Throughout the American West 80% of plant and animal types live in riparian areas, those oasis's have a beauty and serenity out of all proportion to their size.

That people erroneously think deserts are barren is actually a good thing, as it keeps them out of some of god's finest landscapes.

Most of us Americans have a European sense of landscape, that is, if it isn't green it isn't beautiful, that accounts for the intense efforts to have lawns in the southwest, an English cultural trait transplanted to an environment it has no business in.

That said, 5 acres on open flat ground is not much land, 5 acres in a canyon can be quite a bit, 5 acres in a treed landscape that screens one's neighbors from view is sufficient for most people.
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Old 04-27-2013, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Dry? , Not neccessarily, , barren? not really. Here, a canyon in Death Valley
A tourist from Ohio once told Ed Abbey during his tenure at Arches National Monument, that the landscape would be great if it only had water, Ed responded, if it had water, it would be no different than Ohio
That's nice but what do you want to bet the water only lasts for a week or two per year?
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Old 04-27-2013, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Sierraville
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That's nice but what do you want to bet the water only lasts for a week or two per year?
You would lose that bet. That stream runs fine all year. There once was a town upstream lots of people and at least one brewery, their only source of water was that stream.

Incidentally, when OHV enthusiasts rant and rave about being "locked" out of public land, this canyon is the poster child. Jeeps used to winch their way up the canyon, right up that scenic cascade. "The commie liberal fascist pinko guv'mint decided for no good reason at all, to ban that practice", the OHV'ers have never forgiven the commie liberal fascist pinko guv'mint for daring to put the natural world above their winches.

If you hike to the town, you can still see skid marks on the rocks, The hike requires water shoes for three miles, on a 6 mile hike with 6,000 feet of elevation gain

That is far from the only year round flowing creek in the desert. I could tell you the story about how I nearly drowned falling into a hidden stream in Death Valley.

That nice house in the photo takes its water from a spring.

The spring that feeds Furnace Creek Ranch, Inn and campgrounds is a 3,000 gpm spring, in Death Valley.
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Sierraville
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Really, Please tell me more as I am very interested......................
Not much more to tell, excavation contractors are always needed, everywhere 60-80 bucks an hour.

Backhoes for sale
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Old 07-29-2013, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Oroville, CA
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Check out Butte County. You can get land for this price near Oroville(area pop. 60,000), and be fairly close to Chico also. (pop. of the County is 220000)
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Old 07-30-2013, 10:20 AM
 
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There's plenty of 5 acres land for under $100k. I remember looking thru them for fun and usually most of them are in remote areas of California.
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Old 07-30-2013, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Central Bay Area, CA as of Jan 2010...but still a proud Texan from Houston!
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Land is a great investment as long as it's not some unusable swamp. Like the saying goes, "Buy land, they aren't making it any more."
Never heard that saying but that is a funny one
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Old 08-07-2013, 01:51 AM
 
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Check out Butte County. You can get land for this price near Oroville(area pop. 60,000), and be fairly close to Chico also. (pop. of the County is 220000)
I second this recommendation to check out Butte County. The county is littered with trees, especially in Chico where it's been designated a "Tree City USA" by the Arbor Day Foundation for over three decades. You'll find many 5+ acre parcels of land around the county within the $100K mark. Some in the foothills around Forest Ranch, Magalia, Paradise will go for ~$50K. I'm looking at couple of listings right now and I'm seeing a variation, depending on the location there are some five acre parcels going for $100-150K and 40-50+ acre parcels going for <$75K and every differentiation therein.
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