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Old 02-20-2014, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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I wish we could bring back the state mental hospitals. Some homeless folk really need to be institutionalized. That was a sad time, when they were all sent out onto the streets to fend for themselves. And here we still are.

I still think a city's best bet for dealing with their homeless population, is to minimize the resources for them. Don't be like Redding with about 10 foodbanks all run by different organizations, and a mission that provides 3 hot meals a day for them...

If there isn't any free food to be had, they will go away. IMO.

Or make everyone who wants free food have to do some type of work. I'd be happy to do that. I do go to the foodbanks in Redding, as I qualify. If I was told I had to do some kind of work (that I could physically handle) in order to get the food, that would be no problem to me.

Heck, if we could get some labor out of them, might be worth keeping them around...
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Old 02-20-2014, 09:58 PM
 
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Default Out of curiosity . . .

When you say
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If there isn't any free food to be had, they will go away
Where will they go?

Food banks aren't there just to feed the homeless. They have helped many who were affected by the recent recession. Loss of main income in the house has led many to seek help from their local food banks.
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Old 02-21-2014, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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When you say

Where will they go?

Food banks aren't there just to feed the homeless. They have helped many who were affected by the recent recession. Loss of main income in the house has led many to seek help from their local food banks.
I agree. Including me. But, let's make it difficult for the deadbeats, then. Ask them to do some volunteer work to get a voucher for free food. The ones who honestly want to better themselves will do the volunteer work, the deadbeats will move away. I'd be happy to do that. I couldn't move around heavy boxes, but I could help out in the office, for instance.

In CA, to get general assistance (welfare) and keep it, the recipients must do community service of so many hours per month, or they lose their benefits.

How about we do something like that? If the homeless culture grapevine sends out the word that you have to actually work for your food in Redding, but you don't have to work for your food in San Francisco, for instance, guess where they'll go?

Like I said, I think the mission here has it right. They give anybody housing and help and resources for 30 days. If the person makes a serious effort to better their situation, the mission continues to help them. If they don't, they get kicked out.

Unfortunately, they still feed them 3 times a day. This is the only flaw I see in this system.
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Old 02-21-2014, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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Capitol Alert: Updated homeless 'bill of rights' passes CA legislative committee

Our wonderful Sacramento legislators are now attempting to denigrate the state even more by making it a haven for sh*t bums.
My personal opinion is that the only thing the citizens of the state owe the bums is a free ride to the state line.
Kalifornia would be a much better place to live if we had more stringent laws against loitering, panhandling, and vagrancy.
Enabling people to live in a state of drunken, drugged, filth and degradation in public places not only is detrimental to the people doing it, but to the entire society.
Funny, how the self righteous feel they have a right to take others rights away. Getting rid of the drunken, drugged, filth and degradation would get rid of the entire porn, and entertainment industry.
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Funny, how the self righteous feel they have a right to take others rights away. Getting rid of the drunken, drugged, filth and degradation would get rid of the entire porn, and entertainment industry.
LOL! Well, so far, they aren't having sex in front of my building...that I know of...
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