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Old 07-18-2013, 08:54 PM
 
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Very interesting reporting from National Geographic on how well the state is meeting its energy challenges with the addition of new thermal energy units (natural gas turbines).

California Keeps Its Energy Cool in Summer Scorcher
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Old 07-19-2013, 01:33 AM
 
Location: Oroville, California
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I was cringing thinking about rolling brownouts when that last heatwave hit. Its nice to know that someone has been planning ahead this past decade.
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Old 07-19-2013, 08:47 AM
 
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I was cringing thinking about rolling brownouts when that last heatwave hit. Its nice to know that someone has been planning ahead this past decade.
And whodathunkit ... especially in California ... especially if one reads many threads in this forum
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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The focus should really be on using less electricity..... Edison's tiered pricing is a good idea, but the price increases aren't large enough between the tiers. I rarely use the AC, use the heater a bit more (which is electric) during the winter, but even in the winter I'm still in tier 1. I imagine that pricing, such as this: tier 1 $.12, tier 2 $.20, tier 3 $.50, tier 4 $1.00....would start to get people to think how they can use less electricity. Similarly for water....water needs to be more expensive here. Water shortages, yet everyone has green lawns and pools are common place

I sometimes wonder to what degree the obesity epidemic is driving up electrical usage. The human body is rather good at staying cool even in high heat....not so much when you're overweight though.
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Old 07-20-2013, 01:02 PM
 
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The focus should really be on using less electricity..... Edison's tiered pricing is a good idea, but the price increases aren't large enough between the tiers. I rarely use the AC, use the heater a bit more (which is electric) during the winter, but even in the winter I'm still in tier 1. I imagine that pricing, such as this: tier 1 $.12, tier 2 $.20, tier 3 $.50, tier 4 $1.00....would start to get people to think how they can use less electricity. Similarly for water....water needs to be more expensive here. Water shortages, yet everyone has green lawns and pools are common place

I sometimes wonder to what degree the obesity epidemic is driving up electrical usage. The human body is rather good at staying cool even in high heat....not so much when you're overweight though.
How about this? I agree entirely with user_id. Pigs are flying.
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Old 07-20-2013, 01:11 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Here in SF we use natural, free-range, organic air conditioning that's totally free.
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Old 07-20-2013, 04:16 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I sometimes wonder to what degree the obesity epidemic is driving up electrical usage. The human body is rather good at staying cool even in high heat....not so much when you're overweight though.
Yeah, that's it, blame fat people, or sick people, or elderly people, who have a tendency to be overweight due to hormonal changes. Charge them more. Great idea. The "fat" surcharge.

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Old 07-20-2013, 05:47 PM
 
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Yeah, that's it, blame fat people, or sick people, or elderly people, who have a tendency to be overweight due to hormonal changes. Charge them more. Great idea. The "fat" surcharge.

Now hold on a minute ... maybe youse two are on to something ... a "fat surcharge". With the obesity epidemic in America, well, that could finance everything, local, state, and federal ... lawdy lawdy ...
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Old 07-20-2013, 11:27 PM
 
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The focus should really be on using less electricity..... Edison's tiered pricing is a good idea, but the price increases aren't large enough between the tiers. I rarely use the AC, use the heater a bit more (which is electric) during the winter, but even in the winter I'm still in tier 1. I imagine that pricing, such as this: tier 1 $.12, tier 2 $.20, tier 3 $.50, tier 4 $1.00....would start to get people to think how they can use less electricity. Similarly for water....water needs to be more expensive here. Water shortages, yet everyone has green lawns and pools are common place

I sometimes wonder to what degree the obesity epidemic is driving up electrical usage. The human body is rather good at staying cool even in high heat....not so much when you're overweight though.
Agreed on all points. They also are finding that air conditioning actually contributes to obesity...and this makes sense to me on a lot of levels. If you are sweating a lot, your body works harder and burns more calories. Another aspect of it is if you're hot, you tend to eat less...but if you're cool & comfy, you're more likely to eat like you do in the winter.
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Old 07-20-2013, 11:30 PM
 
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Yeah, that's it, blame fat people, or sick people, or elderly people, who have a tendency to be overweight due to hormonal changes. Charge them more. Great idea. The "fat" surcharge.

There really is some truth to it. A friend of mine who was living in New Orleans (where obesity is worse than in CA) briefly shared a place with a fat guy and he was frustrated because the air conditioning was kept on full blast. He was freezing all the time living there, not to mention the electric bill.
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