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View Poll Results: What is the worst place to live?
Los Angeles 32 10.81%
Riverside 6 2.03%
Santa Ana 4 1.35%
San Diego 0 0%
Oakland 24 8.11%
Sacramento 4 1.35%
San Francisco 9 3.04%
San Jose 1 0.34%
Fresno 23 7.77%
Oxnard 0 0%
Bakersfield 34 11.49%
Stockton 52 17.57%
Santa Rosa 0 0%
Modesto 8 2.70%
Salinas 1 0.34%
Santa Barbara 1 0.34%
Vallejo 1 0.34%
Visalia 1 0.34%
Santa Cruz 2 0.68%
San Luis Obispo 1 0.34%
Merced 2 0.68%
Chico 3 1.01%
Napa 0 0%
Redding 9 3.04%
El Centro 34 11.49%
Yuba City 1 0.34%
Madera 2 0.68%
Hanford 3 1.01%
Other 38 12.84%
Voters: 296. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-15-2017, 12:17 PM
 
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El Centro
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Old 02-18-2017, 10:07 PM
 
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Twenty nine palms
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Old 02-19-2017, 01:06 AM
 
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Blythe. They cross the river to Zona for shopping at Walmart. Atleast Needles is close to Laughlin and the areas near Yuma have real action at casinos and Algodones for cheap dental work. Blythe #1 and Barstow a close second.
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Old 02-19-2017, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I didn't vote cause I think the worst or the best depends on what you want in a home. Certainly the center valley isn't a place many might like to call home; the same with the region near the CA/AR border but there are people who would never want to leave the region. I, for one, would never want to return to Los Angeles, but I certainly do not think it is the worst place in CA. It just isn't a place I would want to spend the rest of my life. I think, for me, the area around Eureka would be my least favorite. still it has some positives
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Old 02-19-2017, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Camano Island, WA
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Hmmm, the one thing with this list is that just like my old neighborhood in Oakland, most of these cities have areas that are nice or safe to live in. It just depends on personal preferences. Some of the cities I might say, such as Stockton, have a really nice private school (UOP) and a decent river neighborhood near the ballpark. Bakersfield has jobs if you are into oil, welding, or more conservative politics. Modesto has some quiet places to live. Fresno has a nice CSU campus with a fun football atmosphere on game days, Redding is good if you like lakes or mountains (or Bethel which isnt my brand of Evangelical Christianity but popular for others). I don't think I've been to EL Centro - it is almost 600 miles from where I lived. Richmond has lots of bad neighboorhoods, but my grandparents lived up in the Richmond hills (a block or two from E. Richmond Heights) and their area was safe and walk-able. It later shocked me when people told me of Richmond's reputation.

Honestly, if I had to nominate one city which I would never live it would be be Salton City, CA - or any town adjacent to the Salton Sea. The air is so dry and polluted. The water becomes more acidic with each passing year. Surrounded by desert, you have to drive to Brawley or El Centro for shopping. I havent been there, so maybe I cannot speak ill of it, but from what I have read or seen on tv I would never move there.
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Old 02-19-2017, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Camano Island, WA
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One vote for Oakland! I went on a trip to Northern California with my family a few days ago. Everything was great until we went to Oakland. We went there to stop for a meal and litereally didn't like the place. The downtown area is not really nice, Chinatown takes up like half the downtown, streets are dirty and the everyone looked like they were having a bad day. We went to stop at a park named "Snow Park" for the restroom, and believe me, i never want to go back to that park ever again, omg! There were goose and poop everywhere, and the restroom was extremely dirty!
I think that some of the cities should NOT even be on the list, for example, San Francisco, Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, San Jose, Oxnard and Los Angeles! I don't even know why so many people hate Los Angeles! I live in LA, and I love it! There are tons of great restarants, bars and stores, great shopping, most streets are clean, downtown area is nice, Hollywood, beaches, mountains, houses with backyards, sunshine, beautiful sunset, etc.
This is just my opinion, Oakland just left me with a bad impression, that's it. I really don't want to hate on any city. Everyone has different point of view, some of you might love Oakland and hate Los Angeles. This is just based on my opinion.
I totally agree with your main point. I just want to add about Snow Park from a local. It is located in a national wildlife refuge on Lake Merritt so the grass is always (and has always been) full of bird poop. I avoided walking on the grass when we'd go on field trips. But that wasn't your main idea. Each town has good things and bad things which will vary from person to person.
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Old 02-21-2017, 11:10 AM
 
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San Bernardino , Bad parts of Oxnard, Ridgecrest, Palm Dale , Salton Sea area Hemet, Lake Elsinore, Modesto some really bad neighborhoods in LA and Oakland...
I think LA is overpriced but it has its charms but mostly your paying for weather.. A lot of the amenities provided in Southern California are generic and available in every other metro across the United States. Culturally there are more sophisticated cities than Los Angeles like Chicago or Boston or New York or San Francisco.
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Old 02-24-2017, 06:31 AM
 
Location: San Gabriel Valley
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Honestly, if I had to nominate one city which I would never live it would be be Salton City, CA - or any town adjacent to the Salton Sea. The air is so dry and polluted. The water becomes more acidic with each passing year. Surrounded by desert, you have to drive to Brawley or El Centro for shopping. I havent been there, so maybe I cannot speak ill of it, but from what I have read or seen on tv I would never move there.
Generally, how "good" a place is depends on what one personally requires. A lot of people may suggest a place like Barstow or even godforsaken Trona, which are indeed awful places for most people, but have certain qualities that might make them livable for certain people.

That said, I am gonna second the nomination (or third it, or tenth it-- haven't read the whole thread) for any Salton Sea community. Bombay Beach is perhaps the worst, but differentiating it from Salton City or Salton Sea Beach and the others is splitting hairs. There's really nothing good or useful about any of them.

First, you get the stinking "sea" itself, which is every bit as stinky and gross as the media reports, and gets worse every year as it dries up. The "beaches" are literally the chips of bones of the fish that have been poisoned there. Assuming you can live with the stench of death and decay year-round, there are the dust storms to contend with, which also grow worse as the sea evaporates. Some of this dust and debris is toxic; there have been higher than normal incidences of cancer reported in the region.

Some people may be lured by the low price of land to take a shot anyway. If you dig deeply enough, you can get a parcel big enough for a house for around $3000; even less at tax auctions. At that price, it may be tempting to think, "I'll just stay indoors a lot and use a lot of air freshener". However, the cost of actually building a home is very prohibitive; your construction crew and contractors will have to come from very far away, and they will charge you for that inconvenience. So, actually building a house will cost more than it probably would in the big cities.

You could get around that by just throwing a trailer on your lot, which a lot of people there do. The region is littered by rusted trailers decaying in the salt and dust.

Then there is the isolation. There is absolutely no services or shops nearby. You'd have to go to Niland or Mecca for the most basic of essentials, and those are broken-down tumbleweed towns of their own. Indio or El Centro are closest "big" cities, and neither one of them are famous for much to do.

You will be living among a lot of undocumented immigrants and the rural dirt-poor. A couple of extremes nearby are "Slab City" near Niland, where society's outcasts have built a trailer-and-tent city and the former location of "Duroville", an immense, illegal trailer park that was home to 5000 mostly undocumented immigrants and was famous for its squalid conditions. It has since been shut down, but the conditions that created it persist.

The total lack of schools in the area makes it a destination for registered sex offenders, too.

Then, of course, is the weather. Furnace-blast hot most of the time, and sometimes below freezing at night.

I'd call the Salton Sea and its communities "post-apocalyptic", but that would imply that they once were something in the first place.

Barstow is the land of milk and honey in comparison.

I'm sure there is someone who loves Salton Sea; it does have a mystique about it. I actually visit it sometimes just for the 'experience' of it. But it is an ugly, unhealthy, unsafe, desolate, depressing, and dilapidated junkyard.
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Old 02-24-2017, 10:18 PM
 
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Generally, how "good" a place is depends on what one personally requires. A lot of people may suggest a place like Barstow or even godforsaken Trona, which are indeed awful places for most people, but have certain qualities that might make them livable for certain people.

That said, I am gonna second the nomination (or third it, or tenth it-- haven't read the whole thread) for any Salton Sea community. Bombay Beach is perhaps the worst, but differentiating it from Salton City or Salton Sea Beach and the others is splitting hairs. There's really nothing good or useful about any of them.

First, you get the stinking "sea" itself, which is every bit as stinky and gross as the media reports, and gets worse every year as it dries up. The "beaches" are literally the chips of bones of the fish that have been poisoned there. Assuming you can live with the stench of death and decay year-round, there are the dust storms to contend with, which also grow worse as the sea evaporates. Some of this dust and debris is toxic; there have been higher than normal incidences of cancer reported in the region.

Some people may be lured by the low price of land to take a shot anyway. If you dig deeply enough, you can get a parcel big enough for a house for around $3000; even less at tax auctions. At that price, it may be tempting to think, "I'll just stay indoors a lot and use a lot of air freshener". However, the cost of actually building a home is very prohibitive; your construction crew and contractors will have to come from very far away, and they will charge you for that inconvenience. So, actually building a house will cost more than it probably would in the big cities.

You could get around that by just throwing a trailer on your lot, which a lot of people there do. The region is littered by rusted trailers decaying in the salt and dust.

Then there is the isolation. There is absolutely no services or shops nearby. You'd have to go to Niland or Mecca for the most basic of essentials, and those are broken-down tumbleweed towns of their own. Indio or El Centro are closest "big" cities, and neither one of them are famous for much to do.

You will be living among a lot of undocumented immigrants and the rural dirt-poor. A couple of extremes nearby are "Slab City" near Niland, where society's outcasts have built a trailer-and-tent city and the former location of "Duroville", an immense, illegal trailer park that was home to 5000 mostly undocumented immigrants and was famous for its squalid conditions. It has since been shut down, but the conditions that created it persist.

The total lack of schools in the area makes it a destination for registered sex offenders, too.

Then, of course, is the weather. Furnace-blast hot most of the time, and sometimes below freezing at night.

I'd call the Salton Sea and its communities "post-apocalyptic", but that would imply that they once were something in the first place.

Barstow is the land of milk and honey in comparison.

I'm sure there is someone who loves Salton Sea; it does have a mystique about it. I actually visit it sometimes just for the 'experience' of it. But it is an ugly, unhealthy, unsafe, desolate, depressing, and dilapidated junkyard.




Well, THAT was accurate...and so uplifting!

I can only disagree on one point...Barstow is not, never has been, and never, ever could be, the land of milk & honey. Nope...never-ever, no matter what hallucinogenic you're on.
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Old 03-10-2017, 10:43 PM
 
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I was thinking about this the other day and I realized something about Los Angeles. In LA there is a stark contrast between wealth and poverty . There is no middle ground. Its either a safe neighborhood in wealthy Posh West Side or a ghetto crime ridden one In East LA or the San Fernando Valley . Its kind of representative of economic situation of vanishing middle class and how outsourcing has damaged American life.
LA is mostly a dump (not all of it I know there wealthy areas )but I think that worse place to live is in Skid row if you have no money basically no place to live..

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