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Old 02-09-2014, 02:19 AM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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Speaking of mantras I love the left wing ones about vaste Koch brothers conspiracy.
What conspiracy? They're major funders of right wing candidates, the end game of which is to make money. Not exactly a secret.
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Organizations that spend the Koch brothers’ money may align themselves with conservative hardliners on abortion or gay marriage, but the brothers themselves — and most of their donors — are less concerned with social conservatism than they are with fiscal and regulatory policy. To them, political giving is an investment.
On the Democratic side, the opposite is the case. Heavyweights in the Democratic donor community pay the same tax rates as their Republican counterparts, and cuts to the capital gains tax or the higher brackets of the income tax benefit them financially, too. If fiscal issues were the only things driving their giving habits, Democratic donors would support the same politicians that Republican donors do.
But the motivations of Democratic donors revolve more around social issues.
Why there’s no Democratic version of the Koch brothers organization
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Old 02-09-2014, 03:40 AM
 
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Republicans and most conservatives are moving out of California in groves.
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Old 02-09-2014, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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The true great media conspiracy is that most of the really important news never gets reported or talked about. Stuff like mind control. The New World Order agenda, etc.
Ahh, and now we get to the crazy wing nut conspiracy theories.
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Old 02-09-2014, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Republicans and most conservatives are moving out of California in groves.
Again, not true as we've shown in numerous threads on this topic; also I believe the word you are searching for is droves not groves. There are two groups moving out of California 1) elderly retirees who are cashing out the equity in their homes and moving some where dirt cheap to spend their retirement years and 2) young poor couples who can't afford the price of real estate in desirable areas so they move to less desirable/cheaper areas where their average salary of $12 per hour goes further.

Notice how both of those are financial and not political reasons. The old folks selling their homes and using the money to finance their retirement while the poor people are moving to cheap/poor places where their very low incomes can still qualify them to buy a home. The working poor have simply been priced out of the housing market here because so many people with more money have bid up the prices so the poor can no longer afford it.
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Old 02-09-2014, 03:35 PM
 
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Speaking of mantras, this NWO is the one most cherished by the most acutely paranoid extremists on the far right. Surely we're not going into Black Helicopter madness here, are we?
I knew the "tin foil hat" argument was coming. Predictable response from a parrot. I don't know what "black helicopter" madness is, so I can't address that.


There are plenty in the conspiracy crowd who came from centrist or left leaning political backgrounds, so your ignorance is showing again.
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Old 02-09-2014, 03:36 PM
 
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Republicans and most conservatives are moving out of California in groves.
It's impossible for anyone to move out in "groves".
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Old 02-09-2014, 03:38 PM
 
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Ahh, and now we get to the crazy wing nut conspiracy theories.
Ah, and we get the typical "tin foil hat" response from those who have taken little or no time to investigate anything that doesn't come from the confines of mainstream media. Your screen name is clearly an oxymoron.
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Old 02-09-2014, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Actually, all of the above are Corporate owned and follow a corporate ethos - whichever sells and gets them ratings. Maybe MSNBC is someone left-leaning, but there are limits to that - look at how their head caved to the RNC's chairman Rence Priebus, apologized for a relatively innocuous Twitter and canned some low-level staffer for it. You think FOX News, O'Reilly, Hannity would apologize for something equivalent that? Naaah.

Fox News keeps at what they do because their demographic wants it. Unfortunately for them, it's an older (average age 68) and not growing demographic - audience is shrinking.
"Maybe" MSNBC is left-leaning?

In reality, the actual "faux news" IS MSNBC!
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Old 02-09-2014, 05:30 PM
 
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Republicans and most conservatives are moving out of California in groves.
They're taking the trees with them?! The liberals are going to be angry about this!!
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Old 02-10-2014, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Oh really? Perhaps overlooked was George Soros? This billionaire has funded and contributed huge sums to various left wing causes for many years. For example, in 2004 he spent a small fortune in an unsuccessful bid to prevent the re-election of George Bush.
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