Why is CA gaining total population but losing white population? (San Jose: incomes, live in)

[Vic Romano]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Yes they come to escape it. BUT they are used to the way it functions. They do not see Gov't the same way people born and raised here do. Culture is the key. They are used to corruption and heavy handed acts.

Check out how some cities that are heavily one ethnic dominated, and see how they are doing. Check crime and income and various other similar factors. It is very much like what has happened in cities heavily black populated even now. Cultural attitudes.

Should I check:

Santa Clara
Eastvale
Irvine
Monterey Park
San Jose
Arcadia
Cerritos
San Marino

Shall I go on?

[silverkris]

Originally Posted by expatCA

You are using fallacious arguments. It was white people that developed the constitution and implemented a very good Gov't. Yes bad occurred and it is deteriorating, but it was also European whites that ended Jim Crow, slavery, etc. Tell me would you prefer Mexico's, China's or India's Gov't to be here or a close resemblance to them and their economic policies?

This is not about race, but about political culture and the impact it has had and will have as various ethnic groups become more populous and gain control over Cities, State and Federal districts, etc. Not saying it is all bad, but the political cultures are definitely an area of impact.

You've got to be kidding, right? Jim Crow, slavery didn't end by itself, nor with the efforts of white people alone. It took a lot of pressure, effort, and bloodshed to force the hands of those who wanted to keep the system in place. Puh-leez stop with the holier-than-thou silliness and sophist arguments.

So show me what evidence that Latinos and Asian immigrants, once they become citizens and can vote, are "importing their political culture" with them. I'd think that they learn how to use the system just like any other American group. That's ridiculous alarmist talk on your part.

[silverkris]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Yes they come to escape it. BUT they are used to the way it functions. They do not see Gov't the same way people born and raised here do. Culture is the key. They are used to corruption and heavy handed acts.

Corruption isn't limited to any particular cultural groups. It exists when there's an incentive to cross the lines.

Ever hear of Tammany Hall? Teapot Dome Scandal? Chris Christie's Port Authority chief shaking down United Airlines for a special flight from Newark Airport to his vacation home in South Carolina?

OTOH, Singapore, an Asian country, has very high levels of efficiency and minimal corruption.

[silverkris]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Just check the difference between the political cultures in Europe VS Mexico, China and India as an example.

That European migration kept the constitution in place and fixed violations like slavery, etc.

Yeah, I love how the Russian Mafia observes the Constitution and keeps the peace in Brooklyn.

[Nerdlord]

Originally Posted by silverkris

Yeah, I love how the Russian Mafia observes the Constitution and keeps the peace in Brooklyn.

Does anyone find it strange that it's always the white power, pro european descent types that are the ones that leave California?

[AFP]

Originally Posted by Nerdlord

Does anyone find it strange that it's always the white power, pro european descent types that are the ones that leave California?

They are home grown American bigots. These people are not recognized as being anything European by people living in Europe.

[joliefrijole71]

Originally Posted by Nerdlord

Does anyone find it strange that it's always the white power, pro european descent types that are the ones that leave California?

They all end up migrating to the middle of the country from Colorado up to Wisconsin over to Ohio down to parts of Texas.

[Nerdlord]

Originally Posted by AFP

They are home grown American bigots. These people are not recognized as being anything European by people living in Europe.

This is true, but they generally are of European descent (even if it was 200+ years ago).

[thrillobyte]

I know of four families just on my block in Mt. Washington Los Angeles (where prices have run up to the sky) who sold for roughly 600-800K (bought back pre-80's so houses are paid off) and moved out of state. All four were white families. Two had grown children living with them and two were empty-nesters. One told us they were taking advantage of the booming market and were going to take maybe 350-400K to buy a new house elsewhere and bank the rest to live off until they kicked the bucket.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by silverkris

You've got to be kidding, right? Jim Crow, slavery didn't end by itself, nor with the efforts of white people alone. It took a lot of pressure, effort, and bloodshed to force the hands of those who wanted to keep the system in place. Puh-leez stop with the holier-than-thou silliness and sophist arguments.

So show me what evidence that Latinos and Asian immigrants, once they become citizens and can vote, are "importing their political culture" with them. I'd think that they learn how to use the system just like any other American group. That's ridiculous alarmist talk on your part.

So tell me who ended Jim Crow laws? Who ended slavery?

Yes people bring their cultural background with them. Look at the attitude of many Hispanics. This is easy to see. I am not saying that they are bad people, just that culture effects them. Remember when the earlier immigrants "assimilated" they became LIKE those already in the US including learning the language. The "assimilated". They did not push their old culture on others/ yes the first family might speak minimal English and live in a neighborhood where many of like nationality lived. But the acclimated and became like the Nation as a whole. Today the large amount of immigrants mean the neighborhoods do not ultimately change to what was the norm. They are NOT assimilating as so many did in the apst. AS those neighborhoods grow they will change things unlike in the past.

Do I care, nope I will be long gone before the changes are that dramatic. But assimilation ain't happening as it once did.