California 6 states? Plan to split California into 6 states gains traction (San Diego: income, manufacturing)

[Gentoo]

You are missing something. That very post also explains the differences in government I mentioned.

[ExeterMedia]

Yes you did, but you also explained the rationale behind a split based on those differences in government using cultural differences on the opinion of two hot topics for California tax payers.

It's okay if you don't want to discuss that part of your post, just say you don't, but that's why I brought up the topic of "when does it stop".

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by ExeterMedia

Yes you did, but you also explained the rationale behind a split based on those differences in government using cultural differences on the opinion of two hot topics for California tax payers.

It's okay if you don't want to discuss that part of your post, just say you don't, but that's why I brought up the topic of "when does it stop".

Look, I mentioned earlier that a split along the traditional north/south line which is mostly cultural would make more sense. I'm not discussing this part with you and I already explained why and im not one for repeating myself on forums since the post is still there. This discussion concerns the splitting up of a state and the legal and historical implications in doing so. I've addressed the cultural part, why can't you address the government part? It's ok if you don't have the knowledge in this area just say so.

[ExeterMedia]

Yes you explained the government part using difference in culture and demographics about two hot topics in California, great.

As for the historical implications, you yourself said this hasn't happened in nearly 200 years, not since the mid-19th century. I'm not sure how that is culturally or politically relevant to us here in 2014.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by ExeterMedia

Yes you explained the government part using difference in culture and demographics about two hot topics in California, great.

As for the historical implications, you yourself said this hasn't happened in nearly 200 years, not since the mid-19th century. I'm not sure how that is culturally or politically relevant to us here in 2014.

This will likely be my last response to you as we're just going in circles now so let me ask you this; do you or do you not support a splitting of the state? Why or why wouldn't you support it?

[Woof]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

If my Siskiyou County seceeded, it would simply become like a poorer version of Southern agrarian states. People here who talk about it are almost invariably Tea Party members who fail to tell the general populace that they want to do it to gain a coupla senators.

[majoun]

Originally Posted by Gentoo

Look, I mentioned earlier that a split along the traditional north/south line which is mostly cultural would make more sense. I'm not discussing this part with you and I already explained why and im not one for repeating myself on forums since the post is still there. This discussion concerns the splitting up of a state and the legal and historical implications in doing so. I've addressed the cultural part, why can't you address the government part? It's ok if you don't have the knowledge in this area just say so.

Not really, because the cultural and political line that is most significant in CA is east/west not north/south.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by majoun

Not really, because the cultural and political line that is most significant in CA is east/west not north/south.

I disagree. The north/south line is as old as the state itself. the east/west one is much more political and recent.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by Woof

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

If my Siskiyou County seceeded, it would simply become like a poorer version of Southern agrarian states. People here who talk about it are almost invariably Tea Party members who fail to tell the general populace that they want to do it to gain a coupla senators.

I agree with you woof. I don't agree with every proposal for splitting. However I am a proponent of general regions going their own ways if they see fit and if they can sustain themselves without being a huge burden on the rest of the country. A north/south division would contain metro areas in both along with varying amounts of other economy drivers and both liberal and conservative areas although achieving a perfect balance would not be possible really. However, counties like Siskiyou and the other counties around it would depend more on the rest of the country like many other poorer states do and so would not be such a great idea.

[looking4home]

You've got it all wrong. It's not a North/South thing. It should be an East/West division. The coastal cities/counties as one state and inland as another. I don't know what would be the delineation - a mountain range perhaps - or a roadway? It would be a fair trade-off - the coastal state gets the wealth/high property values, etc. and inland gets the water and the agriculture. It's food for thought, anyway.