Is California's Poverty Worse Than Mississipi?

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by Bruce81

Yes, some Central Valley towns look like Central America, even Mexico looks better. No street light, potholes, awful smell, whole different world.

How/when did those towns come into being? Why are there no services, do those people not pay taxes? What's going on?

[West Coast Republican]

We have a far bigger population here, and several different areas with several different local economies, so trying to compare it with a much smaller populated state, and a much smaller economic state, isn't a very good measure of poverty in either place.

California is the largest economy in the country. In the top 10 in the world, it could sustain it's self. The cost of living is higher here, but so are our wages and our standard of living. Compared to Mississippi it's the opposite for them.

Also, many of the people here who are considered to be in poverty are really illegal immigrants who are abusing benefits thanks to the Marxists who run this state.

[Yak9_]

Not even close.

[oldtrader]

I think CA ranks high on the scale because it has a much larger population.

Wrong. Poverty ranking, is percentage of population living in poverty. It does no matter if you have 100 or 50,000,000 people, it is the percentage of the population living in poverty. California's high poverty rate is the worst by far in the nation. And even more telling is California alone uses 1/3rd of all federal poverty funds, which is by far way too much of a burden on the rest of the country who have to put up the funds to support California poverty.

California is the largest economy in the country. In the top 10 in the world, it could sustain it's self. The cost of living is higher here, but so are our wages and our standard of living. Compared to Mississippi it's the opposite for them.

Fact: California is by far not the highest wages in the country, after being adjusted for cost of living.

http://geocommons.com/datasets/15615/data

Lets go back to 2009, before the economy crashed and California was doing great. Here are the top 50 cities with median income adjusted for cost of living. Note that the highest California City was San Francisco at 24th place followed by Silicon Valley at 25th place, and cities such as Los Angeles way lower at 49th place. Note that Texas had three cities, in the top 10, which was before the Texas miracle. Today California has not recovered as places like Texas, Colorado, Utah, etc., have done which would make the current ratings a lot less favorable for California.

The standard of living, is not really that much better in California than many parts of the country, due to the cost of living lowering the standard of living for much of the population. The high poverty rate is a good example.

Also, many of the people here who are considered to be in poverty are really illegal immigrants who are abusing benefits thanks to the Marxists who run this state.

Again not the real picture. Look at a map of the counties in California, where the actual poverty rates are shown. Note some like the North West Coast are not the areas that the illegals are moving to. Look at those counties which are not the agriculture areas of California where the poverty rate is built around agriculture. You will see the official not adjusted rate is about 20% poverty rates, even those in the Emerald Triangle where 1/3rd of the population makes income from the pot industry either directly or indirectly.

Note the official poverty rate and the CPM rate. The CPM rate is not applied to the counties that have the highest cost of living and are shown in grey on the map. Run your cursor over the county and see the official poverty rate and the one ones adjusted for cost of living. Note even counties like Los Angeles County has 26.9% of the population living in poverty. A wealthy area such as Santa Barbara county has 21.9% of the population living in poverty.

Map: California Poverty Rates by County

The cost of living is higher here, but so are our wages and our standard of living.

The standard of living is so high in California that Mississippi has over a 18% higher home ownership rate than California. In fact Georgia and California are tied for the lowest home ownership rate in the U.S. This is a sign of the true standard of living in a state.

https://www.census.gov/compendia/sta...es/12s0993.pdf

[LordHomunculus]

Originally Posted by oldtrader

The standard of living is so high in California that Mississippi has over a 18% higher home ownership rate than California. In fact Georgia and California are tied for the lowest home ownership rate in the U.S. This is a sign of the true standard of living in a state.

https://www.census.gov/compendia/sta...es/12s0993.pdf

No. California and HAWAII have the lowest home ownership. I assume you might have confused Georgia with Hawaii (Georgia is right above Hawaii).

[MrWillys]

Originally Posted by oldtrader

Wrong. Poverty ranking, is percentage of population living in poverty. It does no matter if you have 100 or 50,000,000 people, it is the percentage of the population living in poverty. California's high poverty rate is the worst by far in the nation. And even more telling is California alone uses 1/3rd of all federal poverty funds, which is by far way too much of a burden on the rest of the country who have to put up the funds to support California poverty.



Fact: California is by far not the highest wages in the country, after being adjusted for cost of living.

GeoCommons

Lets go back to 2009, before the economy crashed and California was doing great. Here are the top 50 cities with median income adjusted for cost of living. Note that the highest California City was San Francisco at 24th place followed by Silicon Valley at 25th place, and cities such as Los Angeles way lower at 49th place. Note that Texas had three cities, in the top 10, which was before the Texas miracle. Today California has not recovered as places like Texas, Colorado, Utah, etc., have done which would make the current ratings a lot less favorable for California.

The standard of living, is not really that much better in California than many parts of the country, due to the cost of living lowering the standard of living for much of the population. The high poverty rate is a good example.



Again not the real picture. Look at a map of the counties in California, where the actual poverty rates are shown. Note some like the North West Coast are not the areas that the illegals are moving to. Look at those counties which are not the agriculture areas of California where the poverty rate is built around agriculture. You will see the official not adjusted rate is about 20% poverty rates, even those in the Emerald Triangle where 1/3rd of the population makes income from the pot industry either directly or indirectly.

Note the official poverty rate and the CPM rate. The CPM rate is not applied to the counties that have the highest cost of living and are shown in grey on the map. Run your cursor over the county and see the official poverty rate and the one ones adjusted for cost of living. Note even counties like Los Angeles County has 26.9% of the population living in poverty. A wealthy area such as Santa Barbara county has 21.9% of the population living in poverty.

Map: California Poverty Rates by County



The standard of living is so high in California that Mississippi has over a 18% higher home ownership rate than California. In fact Georgia and California are tied for the lowest home ownership rate in the U.S. This is a sign of the true standard of living in a state.

https://www.census.gov/compendia/sta...es/12s0993.pdf

Texas is #4 in the nation in per capita poverty, and California is 13th. Home ownership is not a measure of standard of living. There's some very wealthy people that are happy renting. It is the greatest economic power power of all states with the greatest geographic topography. Tallest mountain in the 48, lowest point in the 48. The Pacific ocean compared to a cesspool where they dump unused oil is no comparison.
Almost forgot, should we compare Lake Texhoma to Lake Tahoe?

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by MrWillys

Home ownership is not a measure of standard of living.

Any more than consumption of red meat is the best measure of standard of living worldwide, a figure that has historically been used by all manner of observers for decades. Some wealthy folks like veggies!