California's population rises to 38.3 million (Martinez: college, tax, living)

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Chimérique

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For example, Boeing plans to move 1,000 engineering jobs to Long Beach and Seal Beach. Manufacturers have actually added jobs in California for three consecutive years, reversing a 10-year slide.


LA TIMES Propoganda - Plans is the operative word regarding the engineering jobs; I'll believe when I see it.


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The brightest spots are the state's ability to incubate new companies and tech innovators, putting its businesses in the vanguard of new industries as they emerge (see, for example, wireless computing and biotechnology). California businesses grab the lion's share of venture capital investments in the U.S., and they were responsible for more than a quarter of all patents issued domestically last year. Upstarts sprout or transplant themselves here because of the talent pool and the cluster of related businesses that can help them develop their products and services. The state's investment in its universities over the years has been crucial to sustaining these advantages.


The rest of that article doesn't speak of a single job being created anywhere especially in the inland regions of California. Nor does it speak of creating low skilled jobs for the millions with limited education or job skills. I guess it's better for those folks to live on the street or suck up our taxes in low income housing, unemployment or welfare.

So. You believe Toyota is going to leave California taking jobs with it. Because they said they plan to.
BUT, you DO NOT believe Boeing will bring 1,000 engineering jobs to LB / SB because they merely report that they plan to?

That article doesn't say anything about the sun coming up this morning either. But I'm pretty sure the sun did rise. Here, I'll help out

LEADING JOB CREATION: California added almost 320,000 new jobs in 2013 and over 1.17 million new jobs since the end of the recession. California Economy by the Numbers

Lots of neat statistics in that link for ya. Enjoy.

[somersetguy]

To summarize:

People leave California because they can't afford to live there anymore.

They are replaced by domestic immigrants who love the California scenery/lifestyle/environment and foreign immigrants, some of whom are illegal, many of whom are not (Chinese in Irvine for example) and are highly-educated and wealthy.

Basically, California continues to become more globalized.

That's definitely not a bad thing at all.

And California continues to be at the top or near top of almost every conceivable good measure:

Wealth Distribution By State
California #1
Pie Chart of the Day: Wealth Distribution By State - Insider Monkey

Highest Median household Income
California #10
List of U.S. states by income - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Happiest States
California #17
Top 10 Happiest States: Did Yours Make The List? - Forbes

Most Innovative States
California #2
Top 20 Most Innovative States: Digital Bragging Rights - Bloomberg

The Greenest States
California is #14
America's Greenest States - Forbes

[GoldCountry80]

Originally Posted by California831

What about all those nonsensical threads that keep saying people are leaving California in record numbers? AHAHA this forum is a joke.. way too many conservatives who hate California. California is the best. It is keeping this entire country afloat.

Dead wrong.. but why should I bother explaining? I am for LESS traffic.. LESS pollution, DEpopulation. California does not plan to enforce these things so I have to move from your precious state and go to where I will be treated better in my day to day life and get to and from places easier. Cheaper houses/rents won't hurt either by any means. In this state its such a slow process and are trying to milk the cow to excess but that will only leave CA BROKE, BUSTED AND DISGUSTED.

[GoldCountry80]

Originally Posted by hoffdano

"Net domestic migration" for California has been negative for more than twenty years. That means of the movement between states, more move out of California than move in. The population is growing from immigration and births.

That's the facts.

You're insane to move in, especially if you lived in FL before where life was easier getting to and from places and nicer people in day to day life. It wasn't my full choice to come to CA, I only did so to get closer to Portland and that failed and now I am trying to get back to FL to erase this California West Coast mistake I made by having some crazy love affair with Portland that helped get me out here to begin with.

[GoldCountry80]

Originally Posted by hoffdano

At current course and speed, California will slowly become a state that only the upper middle class can afford to live in a modern comfortable lifestyle. Housing affordability is not improving. Maybe only the 5% can enjoy the great weather and geography. And many of these people will be DINKs or high income singles. Not families. San Francisco is already becoming a childless city. Somehow though California needs people to work the uninteresting low reward jobs. And these people need to be able to live on their barista pay.

I get the dilemma of increasing affordability - which could cause more people to move to the state - increasing demand for state services. I wish people would quit moving to Texas to crowd our roads.

This reminds me of an Arcade Fire song. An album called the Suburbs and "city without children" or something to that effect. Screw SF.. those Bay Area types can have it. I swear to god. What is so damn great about it?

Also Texas seems to be the new California. Sucks for them but not a place I've wanted to be anyhow. Californians hijacked Austin so now expect Texas to take a turn for the worst unless some of the native Texans put a stop to it physically.

[BeauCharles]

Originally Posted by hoffdano

I get the dilemma of increasing affordability - which could cause more people to move to the state - increasing demand for state services. I wish people would quit moving to Texas to crowd our roads.

Californians are a drop in the bucket of what's increasing Texas's population.

[No_Recess]

Originally Posted by somersetguy

To summarize:

People leave California because they can't afford to live there anymore.

They are replaced by domestic immigrants who love the California scenery/lifestyle/environment and foreign immigrants, some of whom are illegal, many of whom are not (Chinese in Irvine for example) and are highly-educated and wealthy.

Basically, California continues to become more globalized.

That's definitely not a bad thing at all.

And California continues to be at the top or near top of almost every conceivable good measure:

Wealth Distribution By State
California #1
Pie Chart of the Day: Wealth Distribution By State - Insider Monkey

Highest Median household Income
California #10
List of U.S. states by income - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Happiest States
California #17
Top 10 Happiest States: Did Yours Make The List? - Forbes

Most Innovative States
California #2
Top 20 Most Innovative States: Digital Bragging Rights - Bloomberg

The Greenest States
California is #14
America's Greenest States - Forbes

Yep.

As one who made a permanent move to California just last year I've completely had it with the old grumpy bunch that arrived pre 1990.

You drank the sweetest nectar for years, even decades, as people slugged thru manufacturing jobs in hellholes back East.

Your property, bought for a few dimes, has increased in value beyond imagination.

Try doing a tour of duty in Pittsburgh or Cleveland like I have.

It's hell on earth. Adapt or get out.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by GoldCountry80

This reminds me of an Arcade Fire song. An album called the Suburbs and "city without children" or something to that effect. Screw SF.. those Bay Area types can have it. I swear to god. What is so damn great about it?

Also Texas seems to be the new California. Sucks for them but not a place I've wanted to be anyhow. Californians hijacked Austin so now expect Texas to take a turn for the worst unless some of the native Texans put a stop to it physically.

Ah, we have indeed arrived at proposing waging actual combat in the Lone Star state to prevent inevitable ubergrowth issues. Sooner than we might have imagined...impressive!

[bigboyz06]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Here's the conundrum. Highway and city planners learned long ago that when you add lanes to a highway to relieve congestion more cars show up to use the road.


California is a super desirable place. The more industry and housing added to reduce unemployment and make living here more accessible, the more people will come and burden the limited quality land and resources.

Californians need to get over the obsession with being "Number 1!" Our lives are so rich as it is with what we have left, what could possibly be wrong with seeing other states, such as arch-enemy Texas, shoulder the burden of an ever increasing American population?

Had no idea Texas was an arch enemy, lol lol! Seriously though when do you predict California hitting the Big 40 milestone as in 40 million residents?

[Tulemutt]

Don't know where you've been. The California Texas rivalry is a national sport rivaling March Madness. That said, Texas isn't MY arch-enemy. I consider Texas a great friend for offering itself up to hordes of people and some businesses that otherwise would contribute to the choking of California and our resources.

Have no idea when we will hit the big 40. Can't be far off unfortunately. Unless y'all can reduce your few regulations even further and attract even more of our poor, tired, and huddled masses.