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Old 05-06-2014, 04:05 PM
 
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Ive done the Texas big house thing multiple times and Im over it. If anyone wants to buy my house right now for $349k, its 3000 sq ft new construction, all wood floors, on canal off mainbody of lake, brick and rock exterior, new gated community, all custom. Its ready to go.....
Link to house? I know a couple of people looking for lake homes.
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Old 05-06-2014, 06:16 PM
 
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Thoughts after reading some of the posts above.

Here are the most air polluted cities in the U.S.

Note California wins in all there catagories.

American Lung Association State of the Air 2013 - Most Polluted Cities

California has the largest manufacturing figures in the U.S. but that is due nearly 1 out of 9 people in the whole U.S. live in California.

But is we look at the percentage of manufacturing is involved in the GSP (Gross State Product), California is nowhere near #1.

http://www.nam.org/~/media/36FEC7FD5...et_Nov2013.pdf

Texas does have higher property taxes than California. Dallas is about twice as high as Los
Angelos as an example. However when you consider homes in Los Angeles are about 3 times the price of Dallas, the real world tax bill is still higher in Los Angeles. In addition California has a lot of other taxes that are a lot higher than Texas.

Going back to the title of the thread, Companies are leaving California and a large number of them are moving to Texas. A big reason that Texas has been out of the recession for a long time while it still lingers in California.
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Old 05-06-2014, 06:37 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Thoughts after reading some of the posts above.

Here are the most air polluted cities in the U.S.

Note California wins in all there catagories.

American Lung Association State of the Air 2013 - Most Polluted Cities

California has the largest manufacturing figures in the U.S. but that is due nearly 1 out of 9 people in the whole U.S. live in California.

But is we look at the percentage of manufacturing is involved in the GSP (Gross State Product), California is nowhere near #1.

http://www.nam.org/~/media/36FEC7FD5...et_Nov2013.pdf

Texas does have higher property taxes than California. Dallas is about twice as high as Los
Angelos as an example. However when you consider homes in Los Angeles are about 3 times the price of Dallas, the real world tax bill is still higher in Los Angeles. In addition California has a lot of other taxes that are a lot higher than Texas.

Going back to the title of the thread, Companies are leaving California and a large number of them are moving to Texas. A big reason that Texas has been out of the recession for a long time while it still lingers in California.
Yes. California has serious air pollution in specific areas, including Los Angeles basin and the CV. All the more reason to impose strict regulations and restrictions to further growth. It's not because California is stupid. It's geography.

Yes. California has the highest manufacturing figures of all states. So what if it is because it has the greatest population? The per capita relationship is meaningless in the context of its mention in this thread. The condemnation was that California doesn't care about manufacturing. Other comments state it is losing manufacturing jobs. Neither of those fear-based claims are true. California is a manufacturing powerhouse for the nation and increasing manufacturing employment for the past three years straight. I wish it weren't. But it is.

The fact that California's economy is vastly diversified and NOT reliant on manufacturing as its primary industry of employment is a good and healthy thing.. It has HUGE dollars in manufacturing output - and even GREATER dollars in other industries. Why you would try to draw that reality as a negative clearly points to your campaign of degrading commentary as malicious.

Real estate taxes? They remain after the mortgage is paid, and they are there always even if you buy cash, Mr. Analyst.

Go away.

Oh wait. You are away. You have lived away from California for many years.
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Old 05-06-2014, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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The fact that California's economy is vastly diversified and NOT reliant on manufacturing as its primary industry of employment is a good and healthy thing.. It has HUGE dollars in manufacturing output - and even GREATER dollars in other industries.
Thus, we worry not about becoming another Rust Belt. Because we won't.
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Old 05-06-2014, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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23 miles from downtown, 2 acres with great trees and views of the hill country, swimming pool, air conditioned RV garage with workshop, circular driveway and covered patio with outdoor fireplace. $398k.

1008 Canyon Bend Dr, Dripping Springs, TX 78620 - Home For Sale and Real Estate Listing - realtor.com®
I'm not sure what you're trying to say with this listing but Dripping Springs, TX isn't the sort of community I would want to live in. As far as the house itself, well, its ugly and not something I'd buy regardless of location.

So, as I said, a home in a community I'd want to live in would start at around $500,000 in Texas.
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Old 05-06-2014, 10:30 PM
 
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So, as I said, a home in a community I'd want to live in would start at around $500,000 in Texas.
Lets look at California homes and prices. This is a ranch style in Campbell, which is right in heart of Silicon Valley, but not in the high priced area. Kind of middle of the road.

2082 Abbey Ln, Campbell, CA 95008 - Home For Sale and Real Estate Listing - realtor.com®

Smaller, and far less quality for $950,000. A $500,000 home in the area of the example, would be well over a million in California. Compare this home, with the example from Texas.

1008 Canyon Bend Dr, Dripping Springs, TX 78620 - Home For Sale and Real Estate Listing - realtor.com®
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Old 05-06-2014, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Lets look at California homes and prices. This is a ranch style in Campbell, which is right in heart of Silicon Valley, but not in the high priced area. Kind of middle of the road.

2082 Abbey Ln, Campbell, CA 95008 - Home For Sale and Real Estate Listing - realtor.com®

Smaller, and far less quality for $950,000. A $500,000 home in the area of the example, would be well over a million in California. Compare this home, with the example from Texas.
There is no Silicon Valley in Texas, in fact, there isn't anything that is even close. So how do we compare?

The reason why some homes in California are so expensive isn't because the house itself but because the community and surroundings of the home.

If finding the biggest house as cheap as possible is what is important to some family, well, there are many areas throughout the country where you can find big cheap houses.
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Old 05-06-2014, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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There is no Silicon Valley in Texas, in fact, there isn't anything that is even close. So how do we compare?

The reason why some homes in California are so expensive isn't because the house itself but because the community and surroundings of the home.

If finding the biggest house as cheap as possible is what is important to some family, well, there are many areas throughout the country where you can find big cheap houses.
Might as well just buy a barge and put a McMansion on it, and park it out in international waters. Affordable!
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Old 05-06-2014, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Central Bay Area, CA as of Jan 2010...but still a proud Texan from Houston!
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There is no Silicon Valley in Texas, in fact, there isn't anything that is even close. So how do we compare?

The reason why some homes in California are so expensive isn't because the house itself but because the community and surroundings of the home.

If finding the biggest house as cheap as possible is what is important to some family, well, there are many areas throughout the country where you can find big cheap houses.
Rubbish as usual.

There is nothing particularly special about Redwood City but look at what you can get in this location for your money. Really an apartment for half a million?

Redwood City Real Estate & Redwood City Homes For Sale — Trulia.com

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Old 05-06-2014, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Rubbish as usual.

There is nothing particularly special about Redwood City but look at what you can get in this location for your money. Really an apartment for almost a million?
Sorry, what is rubbish? Where is the Texan Silicon Valley? There is no area of Texas that is comparable.
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