California's disappearing middle class (Arnold: middle-class, apartments, condo)

[dexter14]

Great read and pretty ironic how Democrats consider themselves to be for the blue collar, middle class yet their actions in ruining this state say otherwise...

The Middle Class is Leaving California Because California Has Left the Middle Class | RicochetRicochet


Read the first part here

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ity-troy-senik

[ketch89]

The biggest problem isn't democrats or republicans, it's NIMBYs who don't want any housing built. We built the bay and LA areas around the premise that "everyone gets a castle," but now that all of the land is used, all of the castle owners don't want any non-castle (SFH) dwellings built. I'm not saying we need more affordable (BMR) housing, I'm saying we need an absolute deluge of 8 story market rate condo buildings to replace every dated strip mall and parking lot around.

[Tulemutt]

I repeat:
What's the problem with people leaving a place that has become overcrowded?
Why does a state half again bigger than the next largest in the union need to continually grow?
Why does a state need to be greater than Number 1 in GDP (is it possible?)
What is this freaking "GROWTH" insanity?

Let some other states have some fun -- Geezuz!

[dexter14]

Originally Posted by ketch89

The biggest problem isn't democrats

Sure it is. Look at the recent history of CA and you will see that the decline of the state started as soon as the liberal Democrats took over. Thats when all the businesses, jobs and middle class started to flee.

[dexter14]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

I repeat:
What's the problem with people leaving a place that has become overcrowded?
Why does a state half again bigger than the next largest in the union need to continually grow?
Why does a state need to be greater than Number 1 in GDP (is it possible?)
What is this freaking "GROWTH" insanity?

Let some other states have some fun -- Geezuz!

Its an easy fix. 1) Loosen the absurd regulations, restrictions and overall costs of doing business in CA. 2) Give incentives for businesses to either remain here or move here. 3) Loosen the absurd zoning and building laws and create affordable housing rather than everything being over market value. Every other state does this. As it stands now, the only people who can afford to live here are the rich living along the coast and the poor living off their Welfare and food stamps further inland in their garbage low income apartments. Middle class is all but gone. Asking for jobs and affordable housing isn't really that difficult is it?

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by mbell75

Its an easy fix. 1) Loosen the absurd regulations, restrictions and overall costs of doing business in CA. 2) Give incentives for businesses to either remain here or move here. 3) Loosen the absurd zoning and building laws and create affordable housing rather than everything being over market value. Every other state does this. As it stands now, the only people who can afford to live here are the rich living along the coast and the poor living off their Welfare and food stamps further inland in their garbage low income apartments. Middle class is all but gone. Asking for jobs and affordable housing isn't really that difficult is it?

You quoted my questions, but didn't answer a single one.

[majoun]

Originally Posted by mbell75

Sure it is. Look at the recent history of CA and you will see that the decline of the state started as soon as the liberal Democrats took over. Thats when all the businesses, jobs and middle class started to flee.

So it was the liberal Democrats who were responsible for Prop 13? I don't think Howard Jarvis was either a liberal or a Democrat.

The state further went into the crapper when Wilson became governor. Not a liberal Dem either. Subsequent governors did not bring the state back to what it used to be despite the good intentions of Arnold and Old Moonbeam (a much better guy than Young Moonbeam was, although the state was in much better shape back then)

[No_Recess]

Originally Posted by mbell75

Great read and pretty ironic how Democrats consider themselves to be for the blue collar, middle class yet their actions in ruining this state say otherwise...

The Middle Class is Leaving California Because California Has Left the Middle Class | RicochetRicochet


Read the first part here

Land of Inequality | National Review Online

The victim mentality at its finest.

Life's a b*tch. Adapt or die...or leave.

I just moved to CA 17 months ago. Doing just fine.

[Blackhawk4440]

The parasitic poor and the established rich always work together to triangulate on the Middle Class, which is the only productive one and the one on which both are dependent and surfeit off of like leeches. It's been this way throughout most of our history: the British Aristocracy enlisted the colonial riffraff to serve in Tory Militias against the Patriots; the Confederate Slaveholders enlisted the Southern White Trash to plunder the North; rich industrialists like Prescott Bush hired urban scum to build the German-American Bunds, and so on.

It's not a partisan issue or a 'class struggle'. It's simply parasites preying on the productive and we have way too many parasites in the US right now.

[Kevroqs]

Originally Posted by mbell75

Great read and pretty ironic how Democrats consider themselves to be for the blue collar, middle class yet their actions in ruining this state say otherwise...

Because the residents put an actor in the charge of the state who's reading a script. It's really the people who voted for him to blame.