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Old 12-19-2007, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Just about anything can be accomplished (including solving gridlock).

It can be done fast and cheap but it won't be correct.
It can be done correct and cheap but it won't be fast
It can be done fast and correct but it won't be cheap.

Pick one.
True, but implementation and costs aside, would you ride this versus your car?
I would think this would work like a Monorail except with greater flexibility, tighter bends should be achievable since the cars footprint on the track is so small.

I think overall it looks and sounds promising, and much better than the light rail alternative.
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Old 12-19-2007, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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True, but implementation and costs aside, would you ride this versus your car?
Why is this better than light rail? What are it's advantages?


Personally I would consider it if was as close to as convenient as my car is. When I lived in LA I hardly dealt with traffic because I would beat it by leaving home around 5-530AM and starting at 6AM and quiting around 3-330PM.

Here in Colorado they have a luxury commuter bus that runs between the Springs and Denver with FREE high speed wireless internet on board.

http://www.crgov.com/Images/ImageManager/IMG_3123.jpg (broken link)

http://www.frontrangeexpress.com/
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Old 12-19-2007, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Charles - I think your questions are answered in the video:

http://www.unimodal.com/PlaySkytran.html (broken link)

I like the Bus, but you have to pickup and stop with everyone else on a fixed schedule.
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Old 12-19-2007, 05:48 PM
 
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The solution to gridlock is simple and is probably going to happen. Charge tolls for all freeway use depending on the time of day. California's politicos can't resist a new tax and the toll can be set high enough to force drivers off the road at peak hours. There is another solution that can be found at the border but I'm not allowed to go there.
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Old 12-19-2007, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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... to force drivers off the road at peak hours.
Would that put more drivers on the city streets?
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Old 12-19-2007, 07:21 PM
 
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More drivers on city streets? Perhaps. But I should think it would more likely force workers hours to be restructured. Employers would have to adjust shift starting and ending times to be in sync with the toll costs. Just another thing for CA employers to juggle. And there would be considerable family stress as families get used to a whole new time routine. Actually it's not my idea. Heard it suggested by one of the politicans.

Of course the koolaide drinkers will point to mass transit as "the only sensible solution". It doesn't work west of the Mississippi. But CA will probably build it anyway.
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Old 12-19-2007, 07:27 PM
 
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Of course the koolaide drinkers will point to mass transit as "the only sensible solution". It doesn't work west of the Mississippi. But CA will probably build it anyway.


Why not? Why would something work in DC, NY, or hell, even San Fran and Portland(Vancouver Canada too!), but NOT work in SoCal?


Charge tolls and have it directly fund light rail all over LA county. Problem Solved
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Old 12-19-2007, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Why not? Why would something work in DC, NY, or hell, even San Fran and Portland(Vancouver Canada too!), but NOT work in SoCal?


Charge tolls and have it directly fund light rail all over LA county. Problem Solved

I am sure a lot of people are going to oppose having tolls roads, but if it helps the road system. why not?


L.A and Orange County areas are just so damn spread out.!!
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Old 12-19-2007, 07:37 PM
 
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Just walk through your daily routine in your mind and you'll see that it does not work. Unless you live in downtown LA (are there markets in downtown LA?). Imagine doing your daily routine using rail/bus in Orange County or San Diego County for example. Or do you want us to change our travels to suit the transit system? Lets see - no trip to Whole Foods 'cause you've already spent 3 hours waiting for bus connections and your carbon footprint is already too big today.
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Old 12-19-2007, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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I think it would just be a lot easier to move somewhere where there is a lot less traffic, less expensive housing, just as many jobs, great weather, better schools, and less social problems.
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