Any Californians considerer Indianapolis?

[dennismpat]

I've never been to Indianapolis, but I did see some pictures of homes for sales in Fishers online. I can't believe how similar the houses there look to the houses in south Orange County, especially Irvine, Mission Viejo and Laguna Niguel (but without the palm trees). The only Midwestern area I've been to is the Omaha, Nebraska metro area, including Council Bluffs, Iowa. My impression of the area is that it's conservative and small-townish, the people for the most part are rather friendly, and the homes are nice and affordable compared to homes here. However, I don't think I could ever live in the Midwest, because I think I'd get bored and will miss the variety of good food we have out here. It IS one of my favorite places to visit, though.

[socrates1234]

Originally Posted by nebulous1

I live in Indianapolis.

VERY FEW JOBS HERE IS WHY IT IS CHEAP TO LIVE HERE.

I hate it here. Very few jobs here. And people are cutthroat for the jobs they have. If you do have a job here, they sabotage and undermine you to look bad. People here are very insecure about their jobs. I frankly am tired of it. If they don't have the skills, they should expect some competition then.

I guess that shoots down the idea of relocating to Indianapolis...unless this poster worked at McDonalds or something...

[socrates1234]

Originally Posted by dennismpat

I've never been to Indianapolis, but I did see some pictures of homes for sales in Fishers online. I can't believe how similar the houses there look to the houses in south Orange County, especially Irvine, Mission Viejo and Laguna Niguel (but without the palm trees). The only Midwestern area I've been to is the Omaha, Nebraska metro area, including Council Bluffs, Iowa. My impression of the area is that it's conservative and small-townish, the people for the most part are rather friendly, and the homes are nice and affordable compared to homes here. However, I don't think I could ever live in the Midwest, because I think I'd get bored and will miss the variety of good food we have out here. It IS one of my favorite places to visit, though.

I've lived in hamilton county(fishers, carmel), and its essentially orange county without the beach/mountains......if you can live without them, and are priced out of Orange, check out hamilton county....median family income 125K..........yes, its boring,
but so is hanging out at Disneyland/Knott's Berry Farm 24/7 as well....

[majoun]

Originally Posted by socrates1234

I guess that shoots down the idea of relocating to Indianapolis...unless this poster worked at McDonalds or something...

There's a reason why the Midwest is still sending more people to California than attracting Californians, the only US region to do so. A depressed economy, no jobs, higher levels of crime than most of Cal., crappy weather. There's a reason why it's cheap.

[UB50]

Originally Posted by socrates1234

check out hamilton county....median family income 125K........

What type of jobs are providing those median 125K incomes?

From what I have seen (or read), Indianapolis has a far lower median income than that. I've also noticed that Indianapolis has a lot of foreclosures, which usually means that people aren't doing that well. (The foreclosure crisis for Indianapolis seems to have started well before the foreclosure crisis for the rest of the country.)

My dad loves the Midwest. I don't know if I would like it or not. I kinda think I might not like it. The houses may be cheaper, but I'm sure the salaries are less too.

I doubt Indianapolis has LA's diversity -- which I like. My "Quality of Life" means more to me than having a big house or any of that stuff. I like to feed my mind instead -- and LA gives me lots to "feed my mind." What would Indianapolis give me?

[socrates1234]

Originally Posted by majoun

There's a reason why the Midwest is still sending more people to California than attracting Californians, the only US region to do so. A depressed economy, no jobs, higher levels of crime than most of Cal., crappy weather. There's a reason why it's cheap.

And what explains the exodus of mass exodus of Californians last 10-15 years or so? Maybe that California jumped the shark about '90 per home values, crime, traffic, illegal immigration, and such? I don't think the midwest will ever attract people from other regions in any numbers, per many reasons, mostly the winters and flat landscape, but, for those looking for something different, and a lot more ambiant than some blast furnace desert cities and pretty lame texas cities they've been flocking to recently. SOME savvy relocators will check those midwest places out, with or without my prompting. Just a matter of time.......

[socrates1234]

Originally Posted by UB50

What type of jobs are providing those median 125K incomes?

From what I have seen (or read), Indianapolis has a far lower median income than that. I've also noticed that Indianapolis has a lot of foreclosures, which usually means that people aren't doing that well. (The foreclosure crisis for Indianapolis seems to have started well before the foreclosure crisis for the rest of the country.)

My dad loves the Midwest. I don't know if I would like it or not. I kinda think I might not like it. The houses may be cheaper, but I'm sure the salaries are less too.

I doubt Indianapolis has LA's diversity -- which I like. My "Quality of Life" means more to me than having a big house or any of that stuff. I like to feed my mind instead -- and LA gives me lots to "feed my mind." What would Indianapolis give me?

Not Indianapolis...Hamilton County, most affluent in the state.....I know it sounds like I'm not saying much, but its far more affluent than you might think, and far out of range of what you, I, or most people that post on here could prob afford. No, Indy is no bastion of diversity. I would imagine some folks moving from Cal, and tired of the masses of illegals would welcome a lack of diversity. I don't think Indy is for everyone. I live in Chicago and prefer its diversity as well, but I don't have kids, so I have no school worries or such. This would only be for families with kids. And only in Hamilton County, not Indianapolis proper. Chicago's suburban area, while not as affordable as Indy's burbs, has far more diversity, and is next to the city obviously. Still far cheaper than California.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by socrates1234

No, Indy is no bastion of diversity. I would imagine some folks moving from Cal, and tired of the masses of illegals would welcome a lack of diversity.

To where I moved (eight miles from the US Air Force Academy), it is 96% not diverse. Hasn't bothered me with the one exception of a lack of variety of ethnic foods close by. I have to drive to downtown Colorado Springs (30 minutes) or into Denver (45 minutes) to get hole in the wall ethnic food (not gringo versions of it).

One guy put it "You'll see more African Americans at an Avalanche hockey game than you will see at an Air Force Academy basketball game."

A lot of people look at the diversity initiatives in corporate America as essentially sugar coating affirmative action. This may lead some people to feel that multiculturalism is a little too much multi and not enough cultural.

[socrates1234]

Originally Posted by Charles

To where I moved (eight miles from the US Air Force Academy), it is 96% not diverse. Hasn't bothered me with the one exception of a lack of variety of ethnic foods close by. I have to drive to downtown Colorado Springs (30 minutes) or into Denver (45 minutes) to get hole in the wall ethnic food (not gringo versions of it).

One guy put it "You'll see more African Americans at an Avalanche hockey game than you will see at an Air Force Academy basketball game."

A lot of people look at the diversity initiatives in corporate America as essentially sugar coating affirmative action. This may lead some people to feel that multiculturalism is a little too much multi and not enough cultural.

You know, I never really thought about how you never hear the term "affirmative action" anymore. Diversity and multiculturalism seems to have filled in the vacuum. I guess AA sounded too aggressive.