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Old 10-05-2014, 07:21 PM
 
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At your age there's no rush, nor should there be.
Good point. Lets not lose sight of the fact that you're probably talking about teenage girls, right? Things will change a lot as you continue to get older.

 
Old 10-05-2014, 07:22 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Oh yeah. This is a for real thread.
"See Rocky? Nuthin' up my sleeve!"
 
Old 10-05-2014, 07:34 PM
 
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I'm a Californian and have grown up here all my life (Bay Area) and this stereotype isn't true at all. I don't get why so many musicians and people have this romanticized idea that California has the most beautiful, desirable women in all of America.

The stereotype of the classic blonde Hollywood starlet or the cute girl-next-door surfer at the beach is from a bygone generation and could hardly be true at all. Only a tiny amount of the women here actually fit that stereotype. The majority of the women here--at least in the Bay Area--are foreign like Asian or Middle Eastern (not that there's anything wrong with that, it just doesn't fit the stereotype) and most of our women are VERY greedy, mean, and stuck up. They want the good life with a lot of money and the whole bourgeoisie shrimp-every-night lifestyle that comes along with it. They are extraordinarily shallow and materialistic. They will only date rich men who can give them this lifestyle, and many of the Asian women over here have the potential to be very racist and xenophobic toward people who do not belong to their ethnic group. I can't recall how many times they've mistreated me in public because I was a Mexican or told me I should leave the nation (which is bizarre given that I was born here when they weren't).

On top of that, a lot of California's women have been very deluded by the whole feminism-liberal thing to an unhealthy level. They think that even being flirty or asking them on a date is supporting the "rape culture" and that even heterosexuality itself is somehow oppressive or wrong. They think that they are entitled, they are selfish, and they wouldn't make a good wife or mother at all. And physically, they're not very attractive either. Most of them are un-tan due to our bad weather in the Bay Area, and they all dress up in that silly hipster clothing--you know, oversized glasses, converse, tomboyish plaid shirts, and stupid "Where's Waldo?" beanies. And they have this unhealthy obsession with dogs--yes, dogs. They treat their dogs like you would treat a human child, even pushing them in strollers, dressing them up, and taking them everywhere they go.

What's so great about California's women? Where did this stereotype come from? I'm not saying that all Californian women or all women in general are bad, but I do think that the majority of Californian women I've met as a native Californian aren't very pleasant compared to other states I've been to.

I visited Texas before and I think they have the greatest women in all of America. I love Texan women. Never had I seen so many beautiful women in such a short span of time as when I visited Texas. They were all very beautiful, very sincere and nice, less stuck-up, and actually polite and not as materialistic. I would choose a Texan woman over a Californian woman any day.
Dude, you're SERIOUSLY doing something wrong! I've never noticed any of this stuff. Bay Area women are mellow and down-to-earth. Are you in LA? That might have something to do with it. Try San Diego. Good luck.
 
Old 10-05-2014, 07:54 PM
 
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Dude, you're SERIOUSLY doing something wrong! I've never noticed any of this stuff. Bay Area women are mellow and down-to-earth. Are you in LA? That might have something to do with it. Try San Diego. Good luck.
He said he is an 18 year-old virgin. I wonder if he has ever even been on a date (porn sites don't count)? There are a lot of young dateless virgin men like this, often "nerds," on the Relationship Forum who get most of their misinformation either from PUA sites, or other from other angry and dateless young men. Believe it or not, many have never even been kissed.

It's interesting that many of these young guys feel they are entitled to date only beautiful women. Forget about the fact that lots of them are not dating period. Also, many are themselves average, or below in looks. Fantasy relationships, complete with drama and rage from a fantasized eventual rejection, are the norm.

I wonder if the OP fits that bill? I'll bet that his complaints have almost nothing, per se, to do with California.

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Old 10-06-2014, 01:50 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, WA
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It's not that. Admittedly I'm shy and not as comfortable in the dating scene as most people (my religion makes this more difficult, especially when sex comes up and I have to break the fact that I'm a virgin and can't lose it until I'm married) but it's just that I haven't found a woman I like in California. They just all seem too shallow, materialistic, and rude. And then there's the racism as most Asians and Middle Easterners won't even give a Mexican like myself a chance because of stereotypes (regardless of the fact that I graduated at the top of my class 1 year earlier than my peers and am an ambitious college student), and then the other non-foreign/non-racist materialistic girls are the ultra-liberal girls who 1) I don't find very physically attractive given the hipster style, and 2) I disagree with too much on our lifestyles and ambitions with.

When I was in Texas for about a month, the women seemed much easier on the eyes, and seemed--at least on the exterior--a bit more sincere, less greedy and materialistic, and more down-to-Earth. When I mentioned that I didn't care about making money as much as I cared about learning what I enjoy (in this case, acquiring a PhD in English), living out my Orthodox religion, and devoting my spare time to helping the poor and volunteering, they weren't instantly turned off like the money-hungry Californian women I've known all my life.
You need to follow your passion and let the rest work its way out. Focus on becoming the best future husband you can be and the 'right' girl will then be attracted to you. If you truly want to volunteer and make a difference helping the poor and needy then make that a priority. Don't look for love in all the wrong places. Many of those young people dedicating theirs lives to these same causing are.... women. Of those women there are those who actually live in California. In that group you may discover another just like you who shares the same morals and views of sex later rather than earlier.

You are not alone though it may seem so in a crowd on campus or on a general forum such as this. Just because you are different than most young men or women your age doesn't make that wrong. Be your own man and your natural strengths will be evident to the right girl. I'm not sure which Orthodox religion you are apart of. Regardless, that is the place to start associating with young people who share things in common including your values. Also start volunteering more now if you are not already. That could be in Texas, California or any other state or Country for that matter. It's not about the state but rather being in the right social circles within any given state or country. Then in time as you grow in your profession and life these things will become more self evident.

To attract the a truly great women (both inside and out) you have to first become the man she has been looking for all her life. Think about that one for a while. Start from within rather than from without. This is coming from someone who struggled with many of these same things as a young man including some of the same frustrations. It wasn't until I began working on becoming the right man that I found the right women. We're going on 24 years of marriage this year. And yeah times have changed. But just think of how hard it might be for those young Orthodox girls trying to find someone with similar values/goals as themselves. Sure, some may still want an easier life. Not everyone is cut out for living a more frugal lifestyle. But there are plenty of humane workers living just like that of the female variety and some are attractive.

Now could you potentially meet the right girl easier in another location? Perhaps. It wouldn't hurt to expand your horizons and continue your education outside the Bay area. At the very least you'll gain a different perspective on things living in another sub-culture. Nothing wrong with spreading your wings a bit and exploring this great nation of ours, that is unless gong out of state is too expensive for you and your parents. Otherwise another city in CA may be worth checking out beyond the Bay.

Derek

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Old 10-06-2014, 02:50 AM
 
Location: California
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like the money-hungry Californian women I've known all my life.
How many women does an 18 year old virgin know? You mean high school girls? Like the ones you've met in the few years since you've gone through puberty? Be honest, you're just bored.

Now, the reason CA has a rep for hot women is A) HOLLYWOOD and B) THE BEACH BOYS FANTASY. Movie stars, glamour, sex, the beach, the bikinis, the sex again. Plus all the prom queen moving to LA from wherever the heck they were the prettiest girls in their school to pursue fame and fortune. And the fake boobs.

I don't think there is a geographical place with MORE good looking woman than another geographical place, it's just the kind of woman you may find attractive will be the ones following the fads and fashions of a particular place.
 
Old 10-06-2014, 04:27 AM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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Let's see:
1) teenager
2) brainiac
3) virgin
4) orthodox
5) won't get some til wed.

Um, if this is supposed to be the picture of the ultimate guy in the mind of every supermodel or hottie on the beach...we just might be a wee bit delusional, no?
 
Old 10-06-2014, 04:51 AM
 
Location: Palmer/Fishhook, Alaska
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I think you're going to have a hard time getting much sympathy from people in your argument that California girls are less sincere, more greedy and materialistic, when your first point of argument is that they aren't as pretty as you think they should be.

You realize that all this emphasis you're placing on looks is also very materialistic and shallow, right?
Bingo!
 
Old 10-06-2014, 09:50 PM
 
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Original poster - you are right. There's no inherent superiority looks-wise of women in California over any other women anywhere else - I've been many places in the country and they're about the same anywhere you go. If for some reason they think they're better than others, well that's their problem innit? Of course that's not the type woman you're looking for anyway right? (and nor is any other guy) so I imagine, they'll remain on their own.
Actually personally I have found the women in North Carolina, Tennessee, and Connecticut to be quite nice on the average (in my humble experience).

nice rant ;\
North Carolina? Can you go on further about that state and the women? I'm actually moving there by the end of the year with my family. I'll be transferring to a college out there.
 
Old 10-07-2014, 12:31 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Well California A) has a lot of women, it's a huge state with a giant population. There's just simply a lot of women so that means there is a good chance that we have a lot of very attractive women. B)Hollywood and the "California Dream" are out here. California women get a lot of media exposure and a lot of entertainers have lived/live out here so they write songs, make movies, etc. about the women in the state they were inspired by.
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