Cali ExPats - Where are you living? (San Luis Obispo, Nice: schools, tornado)

[Charles]

Originally Posted by cobmw

To sheri257

Your numbers are wrong. You say most of the 100,000 people who left coastal California in 2007 moved inland. Not true. Look at the facts. Even the relentlessly liberal LA Times has the facts. In 2007 87,000 more people left California than moved to CA. And they did not move to Riverside. They left the state. The state's population continutes to grow only because of immigration.

Also of interest is the fact that only 5800 jobs were created each month in CA during 2007 compared to 20,000 per month the prior year. Bad omen. Perhaps all those peope who are leaving CA are taking their businesses with them?

Cheerleading for CA is OK by me on this forum. But lets stick to facts.

http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc...2007-sort.html

http://www.realestatejournal.com/buy...tml?refresh=on

[shannon94]

abc7.com: Californians leaving for other states 12/21/07 (broken link)

[redbirdny]

Moved to east Central Florida...............loving it.................warm weather and plenty of rain. Cheaper to live and a lot more fun.

[sheri257]

Originally Posted by cobmw

To sheri257

Your numbers are wrong. You say most of the 100,000 people who left coastal California in 2007 moved inland. Not true. Look at the facts. Even the relentlessly liberal LA Times has the facts. In 2007 87,000 more people left California than moved to CA. And they did not move to Riverside. They left the state. The state's population continutes to grow only because of immigration.

You obviously misread my post ... please go back and read it again. When I said "half" ... I was referring to the 200,000 people per year who were leaving the state in the '90s. I guess you missed that fact in my post.

Now about 100,000 a year are leaving the state all together ... so half of those 200,000 or so people are choosing to move to inland California instead.

(And I was referring to annual numbers).

For example ... while the number of people leaving the state overall dropped from 200,000 in the 90's to about 100,000 a year now ...

The Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario area alone saw an annual population increase of more than 80,000 people per year from 2000-2004.

http://www.census.gov/prod/2006pubs/p25-1135.pdf

And that doesn't include Bakersfied, Fresno, Sacramento and other inland areas that have also seen substantial population increases.

So ... I was pointing out the change in migration patterns. The future growth of California is heading inland.

About half of the people who are leaving the coast are choosing to move inland and, about half are leaving the state all together .... versus what was happening in the '90s when just about all of them left the state all together.

These are the facts ... it's not cheerleading. Check with the Census Bureau.

[robertpolyglot]

I wonder how happy people are with their relocation choices. I know that I can never afford to go back to the West Side of LA, nor would I. Still, I lament that I missed the mid-90s price window to live in Orange County or North San Diego County that is no longer open. That cool summer morning maritime gloom and the access to the ocean is only available on the California Coast...sorry.

So, I'm wondering more about those who chose:
- Texas (around Austin and Hill Country)
- Rockies (Colorado or Idaho, inland)
- Southeast (I lived in Atlanta in my mid-20s myself)
Is every one of your vacations geared toward getting back to the water's edge?

[Cahatch]

Heading north to Spokane, WA hopefully this summer... depends on when and IF our home sells for more than peanuts... not a good time to sell... Husb leaving self employdom to again work for a co. Tired of the stress, high taxes, heat, and the 'takeover'.... sev families from our area have relocated to Spokane... including my cousin and family.... none of them want to come back, they are loving the 4 seasons and the friendliness up there. I'm a CA native married to an AF brat... but I'm ready to go... family all gone here and my kids plan on coming up soon!

[Charles]

Originally Posted by robertpolyglot

So, I'm wondering more about those who chose:

- Rockies (Colorado or Idaho, inland)

Is every one of your vacations geared toward getting back to the water's edge?

Considering I visited the beach in SoCal maybe three or four times in five years I guess the answer is no. However, the caveats are that a) I spent many, many days in my teenage years (1970s-1980s) at Zuma Beach and b) I worked on the beach at Point Mugu for ten years. Maybe I got it out of my system. (Plus now, I am an internet, city-data addict...I can't read a monitor on the beach.)
We visit California three or four times a year for a week each time but only so my parents and my wife's parents can visit with our four girls (their grandkids). Since I grew up in SoCal, I've sort of have seen it all (I know that is really not true but you get the point) and the traffic makes it no fun to see things.

This is the way I would enjoy the beach. It's no wonder my wife thinks I'm a sicko.

[cleosmom]

Originally Posted by robertpolyglot

I wonder how happy people are with their relocation choices. So, I'm wondering more about those who chose:
- Texas (around Austin and Hill Country)
- Rockies (Colorado or Idaho, inland)
- Southeast (I lived in Atlanta in my mid-20s myself)
Is every one of your vacations geared toward getting back to the water's edge?

No, my vacations aren't geared towards gettng back to the water's edge. In fact, unless it means visiting family, I don't go to CA. Last time I went was for my FIL's funeral back in 2005. Last vacation was Reno and my last road trip was taking my best friend's son down to Oceanside, didn't even go to the tourist type locales, simply took him to base and left for the road after he checked in on base.

[dennismpat]

Originally Posted by shannon94

abc7.com: Californians leaving for other states 12/21/07 (broken link)

That story is no longer available on that website.

[ditto]

Originally Posted by dennismpat

That story is no longer available on that website.

Try this link (might want to save it before it evaporates):