California's new rules scramble egg industry (purchase, inspection, cost of)

[mateo45]

^ Which is why most urban-chicken ordinances prohibit roosters… although too bad barking dogs and cats in heat aren't quite as rigorously enforced!

[JGC97]

Originally Posted by mateo45

^ Which is why most urban-chicken ordinances prohibit roosters… although too bad barking dogs and cats in heat aren't quite as rigorously enforced!

Yeah, why is that? I'd rather get a good night's sleep and listen to a rooster once or twice in the morning than the constant barking and howling all through the night.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by mateo45

^ Which is why most urban-chicken ordinances prohibit roosters… although too bad barking dogs and cats in heat aren't quite as rigorously enforced!

um...how do you get a steady supply of eggs without roosters?


Oakland. You can keep farm animals in Oakland.

[user_id]

Originally Posted by mateo45

Actually home-raised chicken and eggs are quite healthy, and even just a couple hens in a small enclosure out on your veranda would provide fresh eggs nearly every day. But OK, "other food" like what… unless you mean stuff raised by 'agribusiness' that's full of pesticides, GMO's, hormones, and preservatives?

Home-raised eggs are not "quite healthy", all the nutritionally aspects that make commercial eggs problematic apply to home-raised eggs as well. For example being loaded with cholesterol. Also you're only going to improve the quality, nutritionally speaking, if you pasture the hens which isn't going to happen when they are in a "small enclosure" in someones backyard. In any case, the majority of people don't have yards to raise hens and home-raised eggs will be expensive unless you pasture or have some unused biomass to fed them (chicken fed costs money).

I see you're using all the catch phrases, "hormones, GMO", etc. But foods of animal origin, regardless of where they are from, contain hormones and if one is concerned about GMO's they can buy organic. Only processed or preserved foods contain preservatives. The other food could really be anything, there is nothing special about eggs. Have oatmeal in the morning instead of eggs (1 pound of organic oats is $1~1.5). You can easily replace eggs in most baked goods with other foods (~5 cents of ground flaxseed can replace an egg). And so on. I don't use eggs at home and someone I'm able to survive.

[OwlKaMyst]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

They'll also wake you and your neighbors up at 4 a.m.

Hens do not make noise at 4 am. The only time hens get loud, the 'bock bock', is when a sister is laying. The only other noise they make is not loud, just a bunch of chicken muttering.

Um...how do you get a steady supply of eggs without roosters?

Chickens lay eggs no matter what. They do not need to be bred, they don't even need a male near by to produce eggs. They just lay them...about one a day.
My hens left us 3 eggs yesterday...the first eggs after taking about a month long 'winter' break.

[mateo45]

Originally Posted by user_id

Home-raised eggs are not "quite healthy", all the nutritionally aspects that make commercial eggs problematic apply to home-raised eggs as well. For example being loaded with cholesterol. Also you're only going to improve the quality, nutritionally speaking, if you pasture the hens which isn't going to happen when they are in a "small enclosure" in someones backyard. In any case, the majority of people don't have yards to raise hens and home-raised eggs will be expensive unless you pasture or have some unused biomass to fed them (chicken fed costs money).

I see you're using all the catch phrases, "hormones, GMO", etc. But foods of animal origin, regardless of where they are from, contain hormones and if one is concerned about GMO's they can buy organic. Only processed or preserved foods contain preservatives. The other food could really be anything, there is nothing special about eggs. Have oatmeal in the morning instead of eggs (1 pound of organic oats is $1~1.5). You can easily replace eggs in most baked goods with other foods (~5 cents of ground flaxseed can replace an egg). And so on. I don't use eggs at home and someone I'm able to survive.

Hmm.. if you don't personally care for 'em, fine. But dunno what your obvious hostility towards eggs is all about (unless maybe a chicken once attacked you…lol)?! Or else you're still laboring under the same health myths of more than a decade ago, long since disproved? But if you're a big fan of "healthier foods" like GMO's, or 'non-organics', etc., well, then by all means, 'enjoy'!

Good Eggs: For Nutrition, They're Hard to Beat

[Gunluvver2]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

They'll also wake you and your neighbors up at 4 a.m.

Just the roosters. You don't need a rooster to lay eggs LOL.
Gunluvver2

[WizardOfRadical]

We already pay more for everything simply because we are in California. Might as well add eggs to the list, I guess...

[armourereric]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

um...how do you get a steady supply of eggs without roosters?


Oakland. You can keep farm animals in Oakland.

Wow, just wow. A, male only needed to make them fertile, not needed to lay.

[armourereric]

As a very conservative republican, I am all for this, but then again, I do have 400 ducks. Message on the phone today from my wholesaler: Please, please do not raise my prices past $10/doz. I get $7.20/doz now. But I keep my flock under USDA free range standards: 108 SQ FT per duck. No soy, no corn, no anti-biotics.