Gov. Brown Signs New Bills To Help Illegals (Homeland, Nice: crime, camps)

[LoriBee62]

Originally Posted by expatCA

I lost a business because my competitors in CA paid illegals $20.00 a day (12 hour day/6 days a week), lunch hamburger, coke and fries. They could bid just below me and pocket far more profit. Could only do that because illegals would work for that little. San Diego County 1985.

Oh, I hired legal residents (US Citizens) and they needed the jobs and I paid more than minimum wage and gave vacation and sick leave pay and ... they all lost their jobs to .... illegals.

You're misplacing blame. The person at fault is the one who hired undocumented workers. That is still against the law. And not only were they breaking the law hiring illegal labor, under the table, avoiding taxes and everything else that goes with that, they were also exploiting someone desperate enough to work 72 hours a week for $120.

How does the business owner get a pass and the exploited foreigner the enemy? As the drought and the financial collapse in 2007 has proven, if there aren't jobs for undocumented workers, they don't come here. Building walls and obsessing over Mexicans is akin to putting a multi-billion dollar bandaid on a wound that will never heal as long as people keep letting illegal employment practices go unpunished.

[LuvSouthOC]

The LA times article is here:


California gives immigrants here illegally unprecedented rights, benefits, protections - LA Times

[Oldglory]

Originally Posted by LoriBee62

You're misplacing blame. The person at fault is the one who hired undocumented workers. That is still against the law. And not only were they breaking the law hiring illegal labor, under the table, avoiding taxes and everything else that goes with that, they were also exploiting someone desperate enough to work 72 hours a week for $120.

How does the business owner get a pass and the exploited foreigner the enemy? As the drought and the financial collapse in 2007 has proven, if there aren't jobs for undocumented workers, they don't come here. Building walls and obsessing over Mexicans is akin to putting a multi-billion dollar bandaid on a wound that will never heal as long as people keep letting illegal employment practices go unpunished.

They're illegal aliens not undocumented workers. Both the employers and their illegal workers are equally to blame. They both know they are breaking the law and no one forces illegals to come here or to work here. Neither should get a pass. The employers should be fined and jailed and their illegal workers deported. Walls do help the Border Patrol if they are built high enough and well enough and yes there are tunnel sensors also. Obsessing about Mexicans? No, objection to illegal aliens.

[RenanS.]

This issue about illegals is already tired.

[LoriBee62]

Originally Posted by Oldglory

They're illegal aliens not undocumented workers. Both the employers and their illegal workers are equally to blame. They both know they are breaking the law and no one forces illegals to come here or to work here. Neither should get a pass. The employers should be fined and jailed and their illegal workers deported. Walls do help the Border Patrol if they are built high enough and well enough and yes there are tunnel sensors also. Obsessing about Mexicans? No, objection to illegal aliens.

Ah yes, big tall walls, tunnel sensors, a fleet of boats checking the ports and an army of border patrols. So that as taxpayers, we can spend three times as much keeping the Mexicans out then they would cost us by being here. But we kept the Mexicans out! So HAH! We really showed them!

Sorry, I don't do that kind of conservative math.

[V8 Vega]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

You know, I think it's against the rules to just post a link without providing a comment or summary.

Guv Brown helped balance the budget. That's all I need to know.

Yeah he balanced the budget with the highest taxes in the nation.

[Sydney123]

Originally Posted by Oldglory

They're illegal aliens not undocumented workers. Both the employers and their illegal workers are equally to blame. They both know they are breaking the law and no one forces illegals to come here or to work here. Neither should get a pass. The employers should be fined and jailed and their illegal workers deported. Walls do help the Border Patrol if they are built high enough and well enough and yes there are tunnel sensors also. Obsessing about Mexicans? No, objection to illegal aliens.

You cannot call them " aliens" because now YOU are breaking the law.

[LoriBee62]

Originally Posted by V8 Vega

Yeah he balanced the budget with the highest taxes in the nation.

This statement is blatantly false. California does NOT have the highest taxes in the nation. Seriously, these posts are like a bizarre form of tourettes.

[RenanS.]

Originally Posted by LoriBee62

This statement is blatantly false. California does NOT have the highest taxes in the nation. Seriously, these posts are like a bizarre form of tourettes.

Poor States = cost of cheap life
Rich States = higher cost of living + better quality of life

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by LoriBee62

Ah yes, big tall walls, tunnel sensors, a fleet of boats checking the ports and an army of border patrols. So that as taxpayers, we can spend three times as much keeping the Mexicans out then they would cost us by being here. But we kept the Mexicans out! So HAH! We really showed them!

Sorry, I don't do that kind of conservative math.

And obviously the thought of having to confront the issue of these illegals breaking our laws and violating our sovereignty makes liberal heads explode. Makes you wonder if they ever met a felon they didn't want to hug.