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Old 08-15-2015, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Got real quiet, OP. Did you fill out your application for the state to pay to fix your car yet? I bet you did. That same state that demands you fix your car to stop pollution, and then pays you to do so?

Can't think why else you all of a sudden left the building.
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Old 08-15-2015, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Got real quiet, OP. Did you fill out your application for the state to pay to fix your car yet? I bet you did. That same state that demands you fix your car to stop pollution, and then pays you to do so?

Can't think why else you all of a sudden left the building.
I think the thread didn't go quite as he had anticipated
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Old 08-16-2015, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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We don't have smog anymore and havent had for 20 years.

The smog is gone!
And the brown haze around downtown is what?
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Old 08-16-2015, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Business ethics is an oxymoron.
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And the brown haze around downtown is what?
Still better-if marginally-than the gray haze that used to prevent you from even SEEING downtown.

I'm on the fence re: smog checks and I feel that they may be of at least somewhat dubious validity. In some ways, I see where they may be a good thing. In others, not so much. I definitely think both sides of the argument (cleaner air or racketeering?) make some valid points.

Regardless of how one feels about this issue, one thing is definitely crystal clear (pun intended). If you want to live and drive in CA, you're going to have to pony up and pay....one way or another. I don't see any way of circumventing that unless you want to depend on Metro.

You can either A) buy and drive a nice new car. It will cost you in payments, insurance, and registration. But you have a modern, reliable vehicle and don't need to smog I think it's for the first five years.

or B) put your foot down and refuse to take on the expense of a new car and drive an old clunker from the 80's or 90's. You won't have to worry about payments. Both insurance and registration will be cheap. But then you'll still have to deal with the expense and hassle of smog checks, break downs and repairs, and the like. And good luck finding a date or anyone that doesn't laugh at you as you traipse around town in your primer gray and red (really pink since it's faded from the sun) '94 Civic.

So name your poison. It don't matter who or what you pay to. You want to drive? You're going to pay.
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Old 08-16-2015, 04:12 PM
 
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I'm all for smog-checks.......can't pass it, get it fixed.
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Old 08-16-2015, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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We have been fighting smog for 50 years and don't need to anymore. The smog is gone! All smog check is is a Democrat party tax on you and a hassel and aggervation for you.

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And to keep it gone we need to keep jalopies and other poorly maintained cars off the road.

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Old 08-16-2015, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Still better-if marginally-than the gray haze that used to prevent you from even SEEING downtown.
I'm on the fence re: smog checks and I feel that they may be of at least somewhat dubious validity. In some ways, I see where they may be a good thing. In others, not so much. I definitely think both sides of the argument (cleaner air or racketeering?) make some valid points.Regardless of how one feels about this issue, one thing is definitely crystal clear (pun intended). If you want to live and drive in CA, you're going to have to pony up and pay....one way or another. I don't see any way of circumventing that unless you want to depend on Metro. You can either A) buy and drive a nice new car. It will cost you in payments, insurance, and registration. But you have a modern, reliable vehicle and don't need to smog I think it's for the first five years. or B) put your foot down and refuse to take on the expense of a new car and drive an old clunker from the 80's or 90's. You won't have to worry about payments. Both insurance and registration will be cheap. But then you'll still have to deal with the expense and hassle of smog checks, break downs and repairs, and the like. And good luck finding a date or anyone that doesn't laugh at you as you traipse around town in your primer gray and red (really pink since it's faded from the sun) '94 Civic. So name your poison. It don't matter who or what you pay to. You want to drive? You're going to pay.
How is it cheaper to drive in other states? Gas here is a few cents higher in California, but about the same as in Reno due to the Washoe County 35 cent tax, registration is higher in NV and smog checks are required every year, not every two years as you do in California. Insurance is about the same as would be car payments. I just don't understand all the angst about prices in California, outside of real estate in some areas California is just not that expensive a place to live.
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Old 08-16-2015, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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Now I have to go to a mechanic and pay probably $125 diagnostic and who knows how much to fix it, probably another $400 plus I already paid $50 to smog check.
I know idiot Democrats/Communists will all chime in Oh because of you we have smog. We don't have smog anymore and havent had for 20 years. Cars from about 1995 on are so much more cleaner than they were and newer cars are really clean.
We have been fighting smog for 50 years and don't need to anymore. The smog is gone! All smog check is is a Democrat party tax on you and a hassel and aggervation for you.
The EPA has to keep on regulating or their out of their cushy high paid job.
Democrats are always saying their for the little guy, could have fooled me.
The reason the smog is gone is thanks to the commie democrats forcing Everyone to have clean burning cars. Gads!
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Old 08-16-2015, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Still better-if marginally-than the gray haze that used to prevent you from even SEEING downtown.

I'm on the fence re: smog checks and I feel that they may be of at least somewhat dubious validity. In some ways, I see where they may be a good thing. In others, not so much. I definitely think both sides of the argument (cleaner air or racketeering?) make some valid points.

Regardless of how one feels about this issue, one thing is definitely crystal clear (pun intended). If you want to live and drive in CA, you're going to have to pony up and pay....one way or another. I don't see any way of circumventing that unless you want to depend on Metro.

You can either A) buy and drive a nice new car. It will cost you in payments, insurance, and registration. But you have a modern, reliable vehicle and don't need to smog I think it's for the first five years.

or B) put your foot down and refuse to take on the expense of a new car and drive an old clunker from the 80's or 90's. You won't have to worry about payments. Both insurance and registration will be cheap. But then you'll still have to deal with the expense and hassle of smog checks, break downs and repairs, and the like. And good luck finding a date or anyone that doesn't laugh at you as you traipse around town in your primer gray and red (really pink since it's faded from the sun) '94 Civic.

So name your poison. It don't matter who or what you pay to. You want to drive? You're going to pay.
Or the OP could move to a county where you don't have to get your car smogged. I didn't realize there were such counties until I moved here to Del Norte County. Smog tests aren't required here. You have to get a car smogged when you buy it, or sell it, but in-between, no smog test required.
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Old 08-16-2015, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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Or the OP could move to a county where you don't have to get your car smogged. I didn't realize there were such counties until I moved here to Del Norte County. Smog tests aren't required here. You have to get a car smogged when you buy it, or sell it, but in-between, no smog test required.
Same for Lassen County.
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