Why California's gas is so expensive. (Los Angeles, San Diego: prices, store, move to)

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by shooting4life

You would have to compare those metro areas to the surrounding areas and their prices. I would washer you would see the difference, especially during the transition period.

Every article about high California gas prices partially blamed the different blends and refineries not being able to keep up with the demand for the specific blend. That plus probably the highest in the nation tax rate including cap and trade leads to us laying now a dollar more per gallon than many areas in the country.

If you want to be fair you need to compare California gas prices with those of neighboring states, not Missouri or Kansas.
Costco Roseville CA......$2.43
Costco Reno NV...........$2.87
Costco Eugene, OR.......$2.49
Costco Las Vegas Nv.....$2.65
Costco Salt Lake City Ut$2.62
Costco Phoenix Az........$2.28
Costco Boise, ID...........$2.76
Costco Los Angeles,CA..$2.95
Costco Vacaville, CA.....$2.69
Costco Seattle, WA.......$2.43

So shooter..it doesn't seem like Taxi-fornia or whatever you want to call California today has significantly higher gas prices than any other state in the west, does it?

[V8 Vega]

You have to pay to join Costco in order to buy their gas.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by V8 Vega

You have to pay to join Costco in order to buy their gas.

Oh please..I used Costco so I wouldn't have to deal with a lot of crap about "well you listed Arco in SLC and Beacon in Reno" If you want to argue the accuracy of the numbers because I used Costco, then you are more than welcome to go to gasbuddy and find the lowest price excluding Costco. I'm sure that you don't give a hoot that I used Costco your brain just won't let you process the fact that a red state like Idaho has more expensive gas than Roseville.

[HyperionGap]

Originally Posted by V8 Vega

You have to pay to join Costco in order to buy their gas.

Yes regardless of what state you live in. Your point is worthless.

[LoriBee62]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Oh please..I used Costco so I wouldn't have to deal with a lot of crap about "well you listed Arco in SLC and Beacon in Reno" If you want to argue the accuracy of the numbers because I used Costco, then you are more than welcome to go to gasbuddy and find the lowest price excluding Costco. I'm sure that you don't give a hoot that I used Costco your brain just won't let you process the fact that a red state like Idaho has more expensive gas than Roseville.

Bingo!

Been there so many times with these types, I don't waste the keystrokes trying to reason with them anymore. You can fact them into a corner and all they'll do is just change the subject to something else that suits the agenda. Some people can't find a reason to get up in the morning if they don't have someone to hate. In that respect, they really deserve more pity than anything else.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by HyperionGap

Yes regardless of what state you live in. Your point is worthless.

Many in here seem to continue down barker paths so replete with little or no point to offer, that worthlessness is actually an improvement.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

here you go...Google is your friend https://energyathaas.wordpress.com/2...ning-gasoline/

Actually it is dealing with the price and using Wholesale pricing as a base. However while I agree the formulation has helped the air quality problem in CA, the question is what testing has been done in the last 12 months to demonstrate the unique blend is still needed VS the exiting 49 State blends that also work well?

The emission levels have dropped about 98% from what they were in the 70's and any improvement now is minimal (Funny they keep wanting to cut emissions by 50%, but in reality that is but 1% of the level left to do). Modern manufacturing, computer controls, catalytic converters and more, have actually had a major impact on emissions and it is likely any benefit of the CA blend, if it really exists, is lost in CA as the CA blend produces worse gas mileage than the 49 State versions, thus increasing emissions per gallon of gas in CA.

Do you or anyone know of any testing done in recent history?

[V8 Vega]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Actually it is dealing with the price and using Wholesale pricing as a base. However while I agree the formulation has helped the air quality problem in CA, the question is what testing has been done in the last 12 months to demonstrate the unique blend is still needed VS the exiting 49 State blends that also work well?

The emission levels have dropped about 98% from what they were in the 70's and any improvement now is minimal (Funny they keep wanting to cut emissions by 50%, but in reality that is but 1% of the level left to do). Modern manufacturing, computer controls, catalytic converters and more, have actually had a major impact on emissions and it is likely any benefit of the CA blend, if it really exists, is lost in CA as the CA blend produces worse gas mileage than the 49 State versions, thus increasing emissions per gallon of gas in CA.

Do you or anyone know of any testing done in recent history?

So we have to pay out the nose for a tiny tiny % less smog, man I hate Democrats.
The regulators have to keep on regulating more and more or they lose their cushy high paying job.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by V8 Vega

So we have to pay out the nose for a tiny tiny % less smog, man I hate Democrats.

Pay out the nose? Did you even bother to look at the data I provided? Boise Idaho and Reno NV have higher priced gas than most areas in California, why don't you try to explain that rather than whine about how much we pay to (according to you) reduce a tiny bit of smog? I remember flying into LA in the early 80's you'd get off the plane and you could hardly breathe -what do you think caused that condition to improve, the tooth fairy?

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Actually it is dealing with the price and using Wholesale pricing as a base. However while I agree the formulation has helped the air quality problem in CA, the question is what testing has been done in the last 12 months to demonstrate the unique blend is still needed VS the exiting 49 State blends that also work well?

The emission levels have dropped about 98% from what they were in the 70's and any improvement now is minimal (Funny they keep wanting to cut emissions by 50%, but in reality that is but 1% of the level left to do). Modern manufacturing, computer controls, catalytic converters and more, have actually had a major impact on emissions and it is likely any benefit of the CA blend, if it really exists, is lost in CA as the CA blend produces worse gas mileage than the 49 State versions, thus increasing emissions per gallon of gas in CA.

Do you or anyone know of any testing done in recent history?

You really can't bring yourself to accept the fact that California gas is not substantially higher (and in many cases is lower) than other western states. You are allowing your political bias to interfere with your ability to reason. Costco gas isn't 'wholesale' I used their prices to avoid having the "commiefornia crowd' claim my data was bad because I should have used Chevron, not Shell. Now you are claiming with ZERO evidence that the CA blend is detrimental..geezus you need to go apply for a job in the PR department of Exxon