Junipero Serra is canonized, a saint

[Bulldogdad]

Originally Posted by bigdumbgod

The whitey gets to take over wherever he pleases just because he can party is that way >>>

They took him into custody. Even made a movie about it.

This brownie will wait till it comes out amazon they have a party.

[Scratch33]

Que Serra Serra...

[sourdough]

I love Dorris Day. See the USA in your Chervrolet, great stuff!

[sourdough]

Opps, Dina Shore did the Chevrolet commercials not Dorris day, who did Que Sera Sera. HaHa

[blueskywalker]

Originally Posted by slo1318

Why

Because, despite the fact that the Catholic church is not obliging the lgbt community and women re; priesthood and contraception, and that he's not vigorously going after the bishops who allowed the pedophiles to remain in positions of power, etc., etc., etc., at least he's one of just a few people who are on the "world stage" reminding people of the "golden rule", speaking on behalf of the planet / environment, speaking out against wealth disparity, speaking about the ravaging effects of capitalism and speaking on behalf of those around the globe who are suffering from poverty.

[sourdough]

Originally Posted by Bulldogdad

The boohoohoo indigenous people's pity party is that way--------->.

Are you quoting Serra or did you make that up all by yourself ?

[sourdough]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

The lovely mission San Juan Capistrano, the Kauai of the Missions as I like to call it, is a truly beautiful place. I am lucky tp be near it. But it also stands as a reminder of how many native Californians were mistreated and often killed in the pursuit of missionary work of the Jesuit (later Franciscan) monks.

I am not a believer, much less a Catholic. However, I appreciate history despite its cruelty. That said, there are those who are angry with the Pope's canonization of Serra. Thoughts?

Here is one of the best fare and balanced write-ups I have seen about the matter…
Junipero Serra, Controversial Priest Behind California Missions, Becomes a Saint | KTLA

[savoytruffle]

It's a sensitive issue with Serra and I see both sides. Indians were treated horribly in the missions and did all of the hardest work. The Spaniards did believe they were better than them. Serra considered them like his kids...people who needed a strong band and needed to "serve," probably. I guess they at least weren't considered 3/5 of a person? Unfortunately such attitudes about natives prevailed at the time and only the very few like Bartolome de las Casas a few hundred years before saw it any differently. That doesnt make it right and it certainly doesn't in our modern view but that's how it was.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by savoytruffle

It's a sensitive issue with Serra and I see both sides. Indians were treated horribly in the missions and did all of the hardest work. The Spaniards did believe they were better than them. Serra considered them like his kids...people who needed a strong band and needed to "serve," probably. I guess they at least weren't considered 3/5 of a person? Unfortunately such attitudes about natives prevailed at the time and only the very few like Bartolome de las Casas a few hundred years before saw it any differently. That doesnt make it right and it certainly doesn't in our modern view but that's how it was.

Like..."Redskins"?