Fresno ~ Good & Bad? (Clovis, Winters: fit in, high crime, buying a house)

[Caliguy2007]

I'm not very familiar with Fresno,but i'm sure their are Good Parts and Bad Parts,just like any other place in the Country.

Just for the record,I noticed that Fresno didn't even make it on the top 10 list of Dangerous Cities.

If you don't like Fresno,their are many other Towns and Cities in the Central Valley to choose from :-)

[cleosmom]

Originally Posted by frezno

Here's an unfavorable review of Mexifornia:
http://www.ailf.org/ipc/Mexifornia.asp (broken link)

and here's a pretty clear-eyed view of Fresno, problems and all:
http://www.fresnostatenews.com/2006/09/chaconQ&A.htm

Frezno, your second link was quite appropiate as it does show the myriad views of Fresburg.

Fresburg certainly was not for me and I grew up there, however it has to bring pleasure to someone as there's nearly half a million someones living there.

[dusesean1986]

Fresno has been inflicted with deep poverty from numerous ethic groups, primarly Asian and Latino.

[Family in a Frenzy]

Frezno,

I guess in your case, ignorance is bliss!!

I have lived in many diverse areas and that is NOT the problem with Fresno. Give me the Bay area any day over Fresno. The problem is simple, quality of life. Poor schools being at the top of my list. The quality of schools here just doesn't come close to other areas we have lived. You are deluded in thinking that Clovis schools and Fresno state are high quality. Have you attended Fresno State and have anything to compare it to? I do. I am attending Fresno State right now. I have also attended schools in Ohio. Yes, Fresno has some professors who bring a top notch background to the table, but look closer, they were more than likely not educated here in Fresno. the best professors are coming from Penn State, Columbia, Florida, Kent State. My husband and I have lived many places around the country and have friends who have also lived everywhere from Cinci, OH, NYC, Charlotte, NC etc. and also agree with us about Fresno. A close friend who's child is attending Berkeley, is continuously harassed about being from Fresno.

While attending Fresno state, I have met many students who have just graduated from Buchanan and Clovis West. It is absolutely shocking how poor their level of academic skills are after leaving such a "good" school. The funding isn't there, they may have rules at your school, but that is not district wide. Other states, like Ohio are top 10 in spending and in academic ability. California is 43rd and 49th. I have been in the public and private schools from Visalia to Merced, and it is frightening. My husband was born and raised here, and he is objective enough to call Fresno what it is, a place where people have deluded themselves into thinking it's somewhere. He has watched it evolve into what it has become. It wasn't like it is now when he was a child.

I think it's great that you see Fresno thru rose colored glasses. Some of us prefer to view it in reality. If you're happy to overpay for substandard housing, breath polluted air, wait up to 36 hours to be seen at Children's hospital, and shuffle by in life with limited options and choices, then Fresno is for you.

[thinboy]

well, i lived in fresno from 1989 to 1995, true what was read is true, but i lived there when the crime rate was at its all-time high. besides knowing people who got killed, and went to jail ( i lived near mckinney ave btw). i found my time ok, i met some real cool people while there and some real down to earth type, but yeah alot of fresnains are sheltered, fearing to go out evening when it was 105 out. it is safe to go out now from what i read in the fresno bee compared what i had experenive, but its still not wise to advenure down pass mckinney, expecially above downtown or west fresno at night now, but around the fair grounds it should be ok.

yeah, everything i was mention above is right ( i cant really think atm, but if you want the best of fresno live above shaw ave, you get half and half between shaw and mckinney depending which side you lived on). But its safer now than before, and there are jobs going to fresno, but this city will be good in time and you wont get laugh in the face when you spouse or child asked for a job application ( happen alot of people i knew). just say fresno=compton in north cal expect for oakland

Oh, sorry for whoamever is reading this, i used to lived there and wanted to add my 2 cents, but the city is changing.

oh is cent city still there by fresno state? when i was there it was a big drug zone ( at 6th and shaw all the up the the end).

[StarLite]

I will say that living in Fresno is convenient cause your not that far from alot of places. Maybe 6hrs from L.A., 4 hrs. from Pismo, doesn't take long to get up to the mountains if you want snow, not far from SLO either. I guess I've lived here almost my whole life. So, I get bored and would like some new scenery.

[cleosmom]

Originally Posted by StarLite

I will say that living in Fresno is convenient cause your not that far from alot of places. Maybe 6hrs from L.A., 4 hrs. from Pismo, doesn't take long to get up to the mountains if you want snow, not far from SLO either. I guess I've lived here almost my whole life. So, I get bored and would like some new scenery.

I had to stop and think when you said six hours to LA, I tend to forget that Californians measure in time not distance. Since it's only 200 miles, with all the traffic the three and half to fours is no longer the case.

[StarLite]

Originally Posted by cleosmom

I had to stop and think when you said six hours to LA, I tend to forget that Californians measure in time not distance. Since it's only 200 miles, with all the traffic the three and half to fours is no longer the case.

Yeah, I couldn't tell you the distance in miles but I could in hours.

[cleosmom]

Originally Posted by StarLite

Yeah, I couldn't tell you the distance in miles but I could in hours.

I got that message from my brother a few years back. We'd moved my mom out here where I live and I informed him that we live less than 5 miles from her place. He repeatedly asked me how long it took to get there Finally resorted to telling him that if you go 15 minutes in any given direction you're outside the city limits

[dusesean1986]

Fresno is nothing but beauty!