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[BayAreaHillbilly]

Originally Posted by blueskywalker

I don't care if anyone hates on CA for being a "nanny state". If people weren't so friggin uncaring and stupid we wouldn't needs laws like this one.

"Gov. Jerry Brown on Saturday signed into law a measure allowing Californians to break into vehicles to rescue animals if they appear to be in danger from excessive heat."

Californians can now act to save dogs from hot cars - LA Times

Use case (and a physics quiz):

1) Ambient temperature, 75 deg F.

2) Car with windows cracked, parked in an area of continuous dawn-to-dusk shade.

3) Animal in a crate, with food and water.

What would you do?

[BayAreaHillbilly]

Originally Posted by NoMoreSnowForMe

OMG. I was just discussing with another fellow democrat/liberal friend the other day, the upside to living in a Trump-centric, Jehovah's Witness, Republican small town in CA. My point was that it was really nice to be able to go places with my dog off leash without a bunch of leash nazis giving me a hard time.

Now, the leash nazis get to break into someone's car based only on their idea of whether or not the dog is in a vehicle that is too hot according to them?

I was thinking of moving back to liberal, democrat, yuppy land closer to the SF Bay Area. Now, I think not.

Living in Tsunami-ville, there would be what, maybe two days a year where the T(amb) and solar loading would be sufficient to cause a problem?

[Finper]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Oh jeez, come on. It's not to save dogs lives it's to keep the good samaritan from being held responsible for replacing the new window.

It saves a dogs life and makes the abuser pay for a new window that's a double positive for me.

[BeauCharles]

I'll call law enforcement, but I'm not breaking anyone's car window. Now if it were a child, yeah, immediately.

[ecvMatt]

I wonder how it will play out when somebody gets bit. I'll only leave my dogs in the car for a brief period while I get coffee or something. If someone was to attempt to "save" them that person would most likely find themselves trapped between a pissed off me and my loyal German Shepherd dogs. Not a good place to be after breaking my car window.

Are there standards that need to be met before one can break into a car consequence free? Minimum ambient temperature? Minimum length of being left unattended or is it a judgement call and the owner is assumed wrong?

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by Finper

Geez only the people on City Data can bash a law that saves dogs lives.

The interwebs is not the place to find joy. More like, people who have the unique ability to hate puppies.

[blueskywalker]

Originally Posted by Finper

Geez only the people on City Data can bash a law that saves dogs lives.

Right?
Man, people have gotten cynical.

[blueskywalker]

Originally Posted by BayAreaHillbilly

Use case (and a physics quiz):

1) Ambient temperature, 75 deg F.

2) Car with windows cracked, parked in an area of continuous dawn-to-dusk shade.

3) Animal in a crate, with food and water.

What would you do?

In that case the dog would be o.k..
Would this new law allow for someone to break into a car given that scenario?
If so, then that's a problem.

[BayAreaHillbilly]

Originally Posted by blueskywalker

In that case the dog would be o.k..
Would this new law allow for someone to break into a car given that scenario?
If so, then that's a problem.

The way I read it there is a great deal of indemnification and the window breaker would have to demonstrate utterly horrible judgment in order to not be indemnified - for example if they were to break the window at night or on a cold cloudy winter day. But the scenario I wrote would probably fall in favor of the window breaker and the automobile / pet owner would be screwed.

A bad, feel-good law to salve the walls-of-worry of people I deem pet Nazis.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by blueskywalker

I don't care if anyone hates on CA for being a "nanny state". If people weren't so friggin uncaring and stupid we wouldn't needs laws like this one.

"Gov. Jerry Brown on Saturday signed into law a measure allowing Californians to break into vehicles to rescue animals if they appear to be in danger from excessive heat."

Californians can now act to save dogs from hot cars - LA Times

Well CA has so few actual problems for the legislature and Governor to actually spend any time on, this was the most important thing they could find to deal with.