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Old 01-05-2017, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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I meant that when it was published (12/15/16), the storms that would hit California from the second half of December through the beginning of January were not expected. It's hard to believe that most of Central and Southern California are not at least in the "Drought remains but improves" category at this point.
It is suspicious.
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Old 01-05-2017, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Next week we're getting pounded, snow everyday in Lake Tahoe, rain everyday in the redwoods, and more rain for the southern coast
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Old 01-05-2017, 04:23 PM
 
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It really amazes me how many people are Debbie Downers who apparently don't WANT the drought to improve. "We would need 365 days of rain for the next five years, blah blah."
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Old 01-05-2017, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Carpinteria
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You can change the time range of this map for rainfall last 30,60 days, whatever. See where the rain is or isn’t
.....AHPS Precipitation Analysis
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Old 01-05-2017, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Tijuana Exurbs
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Actually, building a few more dams in the right places would help relieve drought induced shortages.

Our current system is designed to store spring snow melt, and often times a lot of lower elevation winter rainwater is released to ensure there is storage capacity when the upper elevation snow melts a little bit later. If late winter rainwater could be stored elsewhere, it would be available during periods of drought. Additionally, during flood years, like when Shasta Dam has to release water over the top, that water could be stored for use.

I know that in San Diego County, the water authority is considering building an additional dam to store excess rainwater when high rains occur every fifth to tenth year. Unlike many dams, the plan would be to drain the lake completely dry during drought years.
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Old 01-05-2017, 06:14 PM
 
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Actually, building a few more dams in the right places would help relieve drought induced shortages.

Our current system is designed to store spring snow melt, and often times a lot of lower elevation winter rainwater is released to ensure there is storage capacity when the upper elevation snow melts a little bit later. If late winter rainwater could be stored elsewhere, it would be available during periods of drought. Additionally, during flood years, like when Shasta Dam has to release water over the top, that water could be stored for use.

I know that in San Diego County, the water authority is considering building an additional dam to store excess rainwater when high rains occur every fifth to tenth year. Unlike many dams, the plan would be to drain the lake completely dry during drought years.
For the public in general the dams and reservoirs are fine. For farms and farm communities the aquifer is key and it take a looong time to refill.
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Old 01-05-2017, 07:13 PM
 
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Tell me about it...Even the media continues to say were in a drought despite all the rainfall/snowfall we've been having...I'm so worn out from hearing it that I just continue to conserve water like were living in the Sahara Desert despite all this rainfall i'm seeing outside and I heard there's more to come this weekend.

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It really amazes me how many people are Debbie Downers who apparently don't WANT the drought to improve. "We would need 365 days of rain for the next five years, blah blah."
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Old 01-06-2017, 02:58 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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The drought isn't truly over until the snowpack and glaciers are back to where they were and the underground aquifers are recharged, at least to the best possible extent that the drained and therefore permanently damaged aquifers can be recharged.
There are no glaciers in California.
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Old 01-06-2017, 07:37 AM
 
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There are no glaciers in California.
Yes California has glaciers on Mt. Shasta.

The USGS Provisional 1986 topo map of Mount Shasta recognizes seven glaciers although Rhodes (1987) suggests there are ten extant glaciers. The seven glaciers recognized by the USGS are Whitney Glacier, Bolam Glacier, Hotlum Glacier, Wintun Glacier, Watkins Glacier, Konwakiton Glacier, and Mud Creek Glacier.

In 2002, scientists made the first detailed survey of Mount Shasta's glaciers in 50 years. They found that seven of the glaciers have grown over the period 1951-2002, with the Hotlum and Wintun Glaciers nearly doubling, the Bolam Glacier increasing by half, and the Whitney and Konwakiton Glaciers growing by a third.

Over the past 50 years, the glacier has actually expanded 30 percent, which is the opposite of what is being observed in most areas of the world. Researchers have also stated that if the global warming forecast for the upcoming next 100 years are accurate, the increased snowfall will not be enough to offset the increased melting, and the glacier is then likely to retreat.

Perhaps you can tell us if they are still there or not? Did they disappear since 2002?

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Old 01-06-2017, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Tulare County, Ca
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We've been pretty much drought central down here in East Porterville, but with the recent heavy rains, things are looking up. Here's a picture of the Tule River from yesterday. This river was dry not too long ago. Now it's coming out of it's banks in spots.

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