California Schools Receive a C-minus 10th from the bottom (Santa Monica: insurance, houses)

[twins4lynn]

Originally Posted by popaltor

The driving factor was that no one graduates in CA and can make a life. They're nearly all forced to leave. Universities elsewhere have hooks into large employers. Most all the large employers in CA have moved operations and staff out of there. A huge number have simply left including the execs.

No one? NO ONE??? My son's a senior in college, in California. He has friends attending the UC's who already have jobs secured, in California, for when they graduate in June. They can't be the only graduates being hired.

Don't exaggerate.

[popaltor]

Originally Posted by twins4lynn

No one? NO ONE??? My son's a senior in college, in California. He has friends attending the UC's who already have jobs secured, in California, for when they graduate in June. They can't be the only graduates being hired.

Don't exaggerate.

Likewise - As you know the housing costs in the states one, and only one, job center, San Francisco are 1.4 million for a fixer uper, per SF Gate.

Now, some people like poverty. And if you graduate in and stay in CA, that's where you'll be.

In other states, you may land a decent job and in a year or two afford a house.

Heck, not to exaggerate, but even the UC and CSU teachers, the people teaching your kid, were binding together to ask for increases as many of them were living in poverty.

No one who's lived in CA is fooled. We know how bad it is for young people.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by lvmensch

No meat. There is certainly evidence that CA has decayed on a number of metrics over the last 30 years...

Your welcome to ignore whatever data you want.

My personal experience was in that time frame. The 70s. I moved three daughters from a good upstate NY school system to a good Orange County one. The OC schools were quite similar but certainly not superior to the upstate NY ones.

Anecdotal evidence means zip. (Although those of us who actually attended public schools in CA from K-12 would probably have a better idea.) And no one was comparing Orange County's public schools to those in upstate New York.

[lvmensch]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

Your welcome to ignore whatever data you want.



Anecdotal evidence means zip. (Although those of us who actually attended public schools in CA from K-12 would probably have a better idea.) And no one was comparing Orange County's public schools to those in upstate New York.

Again simply no meat. Just meaningless statistics. The alternate location to OC was Palo Verde or the Beach cities. We chose OC based on schools and bang for buck. We looked very closely at the schools at the time. And we had the needed skill set and data to chose well. We had already lived in So CA in the past so we knew what we were doing.

Good upstate NY provides a reasonable measuring tool. These were suburban school systems within America's top 100.

I think the views in your post simply reflect a bias and have no basis in fact.

[3shipguy]

Originally Posted by popaltor

The driving factor was that no one graduates in CA and can make a life. They're nearly all forced to leave. Universities elsewhere have hooks into large employers. Most all the large employers in CA have moved operations and staff out of there. A huge number have simply left including the execs.

So this makes the quality of education in California state universities subpar? Interesting...

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by 3shipguy

So this makes the quality of education in California state universities subpar? Interesting...

Nope, it is an indication the job market in CA is not large enough for all the graduates.

[popaltor]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Nope, it is an indication the job market in CA is not large enough for all the graduates.

The state has a hard time finding doctors, as in people making two hundred k elsewhere, because those doctors do not wish to be put into the lower classes, so they won't move to CA to accept a job offer.

The education from a UC is still good. The employment prospects are nil however post graduation everywhere except the bay area, where it's 1.4 mill for a fixer upper.

"Austin here we come" must be the UC system motto, where UC teachers live with room mates because the professors and staff can't afford normal adult life either.

[popaltor]

Originally Posted by twins4lynn

No one? NO ONE??? My son's a senior in college, in California. He has friends attending the UC's who already have jobs secured, in California, for when they graduate in June. They can't be the only graduates being hired.

Don't exaggerate.

Something you might wish to know...

"Administrative assistants, collection representatives, childcare assistants and public safety dispatchers are among those expected to take part in the job action.

Union officials cited an October report from Occidental College that said more than 70 percent of the workers suffer from hunger or "food insecurity.''


UCSD support staff stage one-day walkout - CBS News 8 - San Diego, CA News Station - KFMB Channel 8


Let that sink in.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by popaltor

The driving factor was that no one graduates in CA and can make a life. They're nearly all forced to leave. Universities elsewhere have hooks into large employers. Most all the large employers in CA have moved operations and staff out of there. A huge number have simply left including the execs.

Your argument seems to be changing but I will try to keep up
California colleges have the 9th highest graduation in the Nation
Graduation rates by state | College Completion

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by popaltor

Something you might wish to know...
"Administrative assistants, collection representatives, childcare assistants and public safety dispatchers are among those expected to take part in the job action.
Union officials cited an October report from Occidental College that said more than 70 percent of the workers suffer from hunger or "food insecurity.''
UCSD support staff stage one-day walkout - CBS News 8 - San Diego, CA News Station - KFMB Channel 8
Let that sink in.

Let what sink in? That is about non credentialed staff picketing for higher wages, did you even bother to read the article that you posted?
UC clerical employees earn an annual average salary of $47,300 — more than the state average of roughly $39,200 for clerical workers. These UC employees typically pay just $384 a year for health insurance for themselves and their children. By comparison, the average American worker typically pays over $5,200 for less generous health coverage — and that’s just for themselves.