02-11-2017, 11:35 AM
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I've been following this story on the local news networks. (wish beau charles would check in and give us an update) I'm not surprised by this, though. The infrastructure in this country has been deteriorating for years. They wait until a catastrophe happens and then try to fix it instead of doing regular (and thorough) inspections. I read that silt from this spill is flowing into the hatchery, forcing them to move the baby salmon. Last report was they've moved over a million of them farther away. What a mess.
Just yesterday, a train (22 cars) derailed next to the Consumnes River, near Elk Grove. This area is notorious for flooding but with all the recent rainfall the ground is so saturated it couldn't sustain the weight of the train.
The short break in storms would be a good time for officials to get out there and do some heavy inspecting. Maybe they could anticipate the areas that are most vulnerable. It's not over, though. We aren't finished with the rainy season and if the rest of it is anything like what we've already experienced, there will be more major destruction. yikes
02-11-2017, 11:56 AM
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Oh, hi guys! Well, we're doing fine so far. The dam is not in danger. The emergency spillway did start flowing at 8AM this morning. Its not much (6,000 to 12,000 CFS). That's coupled with the 55,000 CFS going through the damaged spillway. The river level is still below flood stage, so no danger yet and no evacuations. The level is lower than it was in 2006 or the El Nino of of '97. Sunny warm day today. No rain until late next week so they have so time to make room.
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02-11-2017, 12:12 PM
Location: Vancouver, WA
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Oh, hi guys! Well, we're doing fine so far. The dam is not in danger. The emergency spillway did start flowing at 8AM this morning. Its not much (6,000 to 12,000 CFS). That's coupled with the 55,000 CFS going through the damaged spillway. The river level is still below flood stage, so no danger yet and no evacuations. The level is lower than it was in 2006 or the El Nino of of '97. Sunny warm day today. No rain until late next week so they have so time to make room.
Glad to hear it, BeauCharles. Its getting pretty crazy in your neck of the woods lately. That damaged spillway looks a mess. Hopefully with the break between storms they can divert enough of the water to handle the next set of storms to come. Its going to be wild ride this year as the rain continues. I wonder is there is any hope of fixing that spillway as it looks almost like a total loss from the latest pictures I saw of it?
Hard to believe this time last year we were looking at the ravages of a five year drought. I guess the shabby spillway was lower on the priority list.
Its nice to see the sun for while, isn't it! Today is sunny and beautiful out in Monterey as well.
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Good to hear from you Beau Charles and glad the town hasn't been evacuated. Any idea how long they'll have to wait before repairs can be done on the major spillway? With all the rain and runoff, I imagine it will be months before they can even get to it. Be safe and keep check in every once in a while.
02-11-2017, 05:27 PM
Location: Oroville, California
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Good to hear from you Beau Charles and glad the town hasn't been evacuated. Any idea how long they'll have to wait before repairs can be done on the major spillway? With all the rain and runoff, I imagine it will be months before they can even get to it. Be safe and keep check in every once in a while.
A lot of the releases that run until well into the summer have been mandated to keep the river high and cold for fish (not for flood control), so given the circumstances I would think they could shut off the flow earlier than we're used to seeing (to start construction). They claim they can have it repaired by late fall, but I don't trust estimates. Seems like everything takes twice as long as projected.
02-11-2017, 05:46 PM
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A lot of the releases that run until well into the summer have been mandated to keep the river high and cold for fish (not for flood control), so given the circumstances I would think they could shut off the flow earlier than we're used to seeing (to start construction). They claim they can have it repaired by late fall, but I don't trust estimates. Seems like everything takes twice as long as projected.
Yeah, I guess once they get beyond the rainy season, it will be easier to make a determination. 'Course, there's still over a month to go before that ends. Agreed about things taking twice as long to accomplish.
02-11-2017, 11:01 PM
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02-12-2017, 09:00 PM
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The auxiliary spillway isn't doing so well, so low-lying areas in Oroville have been evacuated this evening.
They increased the water flow going through the main spillway, which relieved some of the pressure from the auxiliary one, but if the auxiliary spillway fails completely, uncontrolled flow is inevitable and will cause lots of flooding. However, the dam itself is okay. Only the spillways are in trouble (but this is bad enough, of course).
02-12-2017, 09:09 PM
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The auxiliary spillway isn't doing so well, so low-lying areas in Oroville have been evacuated this evening.
They increased the water flow going through the main spillway, which relieved some of the pressure from the auxiliary one, but if the auxiliary spillway fails completely, uncontrolled flow is inevitable and will cause lots of flooding. However, the dam itself is okay. Only the spillways are in trouble (but this is bad enough, of course).
Yeah, I just saw this in the news. Things are getting more dicey, enough to evacuate certain areas which seems to be increasing. This is occurring even without rain currently. Next week looks to hold a lot more rain in the forecast.
Evacuation orders issued for low levels of Oroville
Things seem to be progressing quickly as more evacuations are just being announced. 130,000 evacuated over California dam concerns.
http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/cal...132332499.html
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Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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They increased the water flow going through the main spillway, which relieved some of the pressure from the auxiliary one, but if the auxiliary spillway fails completely, uncontrolled flow is inevitable and will cause lots of flooding. However, the dam itself is okay. Only the spillways are in trouble (but this is bad enough, of course).
