I am thinking about bucking the trend of CA>OR - am I crazy? (San Jose: for sale, how much)

[BayAreaHillbilly]

Originally Posted by BGS91762

I live in the western part of the IE for 30 years and really haven't noticed it has gotten much hotter. We still get the cool breezes and night to cool things down. Have noticed it's a little more humid tho in August and Sept.

That said, no doubt that UHI / albedo modifications have impacted sensible weather at / near ground level in the more recently developed areas. Long, long term, landscaping somewhat mitigates the impacts but not 100%

[NoMoreSnowForMe]

Oregonians love to hate Californians, but I haven't seen Californians hate transplants. I've lived here most of my life.

I have a funny story on the subject. I was signing up for a club membership at a local Indian casino, in order to get the cheap senior lunch (I'm not a gambler - too cheap lol). The woman signing my friend and I up at the club window said she had recently moved to CA from Medford OR.

Then, she started complaining about how she wasn't able to afford to buy property in CA because of the Californians from southern CA moving to the north coast and buying up all the property, causing the prices to be too expensive for her.

Think about that for a minute. LOL. She came into CA from OR to buy CA property, and is so used to blaming Californians for rising real estate prices, that she begrudges Californians who move within their own state. And buy property she wanted as an Oregon transplant.

You just can't kill that kind of mindset.

At any rate, if the OP is still around, you're more than welcome to come to CA. Lots of options from super cheap, poor areas even on the coast (Crescent City), to mountains, deserts, small and large cities. It's not all expensive everywhere.

And the higher taxes actually get you better amenities, like healthcare, etc., here, too.

I also was one who moved to other states and came back. I'm never moving out of CA again. You also won't get me out of the SF Bay Area again. I love my amenities and won't be without them again.

[MtnSurfer]

Originally Posted by NoMoreSnowForMe

Oregonians love to hate Californians, but I haven't seen Californians hate transplants. I've lived here most of my life.

I have a funny story on the subject. I was signing up for a club membership at a local Indian casino, in order to get the cheap senior lunch (I'm not a gambler - too cheap lol). The woman signing my friend and I up at the club window said she had recently moved to CA from Medford OR.

Then, she started complaining about how she wasn't able to afford to buy property in CA because of the Californians from southern CA moving to the north coast and buying up all the property, causing the prices to be too expensive for her.

Think about that for a minute. LOL. She came into CA from OR to buy CA property, and is so used to blaming Californians for rising real estate prices, that she begrudges Californians who move within their own state. And buy property she wanted as an Oregon transplant.

You just can't kill that kind of mindset.

At any rate, if the OP is still around, you're more than welcome to come to CA. Lots of options from super cheap, poor areas even on the coast (Crescent City), to mountains, deserts, small and large cities. It's not all expensive everywhere.

And the higher taxes actually get you better amenities, like healthcare, etc., here, too.

I also was one who moved to other states and came back. I'm never moving out of CA again. You also won't get me out of the SF Bay Area again. I love my amenities and won't be without them again.

NoMoreSnow, you're back!?! I guess congratulations are in order! Welcome back to the Bay Area. Hopefully you are enjoying the change.

Derek

[NoMoreSnowForMe]

Originally Posted by MtnSurfer

NoMoreSnow, you're back!?! I guess congratulations are in order! Welcome back to the Bay Area. Hopefully you are enjoying the change.

Derek

YES! And I promise to never complain about the traffic again.....well, not for awhile lol. I ended up getting into a nice place in north San Jose :-)

[Count David]

Originally Posted by NoMoreSnowForMe

Oregonians love to hate Californians, but I haven't seen Californians hate transplants. I've lived here most of my life.

I have a funny story on the subject. I was signing up for a club membership at a local Indian casino, in order to get the cheap senior lunch (I'm not a gambler - too cheap lol). The woman signing my friend and I up at the club window said she had recently moved to CA from Medford OR.

Then, she started complaining about how she wasn't able to afford to buy property in CA because of the Californians from southern CA moving to the north coast and buying up all the property, causing the prices to be too expensive for her.

Think about that for a minute. LOL. She came into CA from OR to buy CA property, and is so used to blaming Californians for rising real estate prices, that she begrudges Californians who move within their own state. And buy property she wanted as an Oregon transplant.

You just can't kill that kind of mindset.

This is hilarious. Maybe she considered herself more entitled to it because of proximity. However, using that logic somebody from Brawley is more entitled to the North Coast than she is.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by BGS91762

I live in the western part of the IE for 30 years and really haven't noticed it has gotten much hotter.

You must spend all your time indoors. It's definitely warmer in greater L.A. than it was 30 years ago.
Even in sunny L.A., warming climate may be the next big public health problem - LA Times

[seain dublin]

Originally Posted by MtnSurfer

Isn't Lake Oswego like the Beverly Hills of Portland? I can see why people like to move there due to its beautiful location. But with so many other places to chose from it would seem you don't have to go far to experience a different environment in the PNW.

California is such a large state we've got just about every kind of environment you can image including ultra snobby places like Beverly Hills. There are also small towns in the middle of nowhere that are totally uncrowded just like Oregon has. The real question is would you want to live there? Most people don't and that's why they're are so uncrowded.

On a forum like this you'll hear lots of extremes especially because it normally attracts the disgruntled who like to vent, complain, etc... about everything. But I think you could find the kind of place you are looking for with nicer (relative) weather if you looked. Just keep in mind that every place comes with its pros/cons. The hardest part is finding all the good things you are looking for within reasonable prices. It sounds like your research has lead you to two which I recommend further exploring beyond the internet. The first thing folks are doing is telling the bad which is still good to know. But those places aren't all bad especially if you can deal with more sun and hot weather. Everyone has their preferences.

Many people who leave CA are looking for their Shangri La somewhere else and some hope to find it in the PNW. For many its a great place if they can live with the weather. I personally love all the green up there especially this time of the year and wouldn't mind some more clouds and rain. We really enjoy vacationing there and love the beauty of the place, all the waterfalls, gorgeous rugged coastline, mountains, etc... We probably would have moved there ourselves if my wife could handle the clouds. But she would suffer too much from SAD and needs more sunlight. You have to live in a place that works for your whole family.

For us, the Central California Coast is a nice happy medium away from the crowds of the big metros with mild temperatures year round. Unlike many Californians who complain about crowds, we don't have to deal with them here. We've lived in the big metros and I grew up in LA. So we really knew what we wanted and targeted areas based upon what we were looking for. That's what you have to do realizing that it will not be 'perfect.' Although for us Monterey is pretty darn close.

Derek

No, it isn't.

But unfortunately the people who live there think it is.

I lived in the Portland area for a few years, and was amazed at some of the snobby behavior.

It was laughable after living in LA, knowing people who had a lot more money, bigger homes, and way less attitude.

I know exactly what the OP means.

[seain dublin]

Originally Posted by radiolibre99

CA weather not directly on the coasts has gotten hotter and hotter over the years. It's still miles ahead better than the Deep South or the rest of the country BUT the weather tax premium to live in SoCal is starting to not be as worth the cost as it once was. San Diego seems like a way better bet than LA for someone trying to get the most bang for their buck. Temecula is gorgeous. I love that town. I visit it all the time. Friendly people, weather is hot, and great wineries.

So Lake Oswego is snobby??? It's so beautiful over there. Why would you want to leave? Portland has to be hands down the nicest city I've ever been to. The people were awesome when I visited last summer. The place has a completely chilled vibe.

Oregon has to be one the most beautiful places I've ever been to.

Because it's snobby, life is too short to be around people putting on airs.

Having lived in the Portland area a couple of years and working in Lake Oswego, I know what the OP means.

Yes, it's pretty. So are lots of places in Oregon.

There is an attitude in that area, and having lived in LA for years before and after found it "amusing", it's like "it's so cute you think your area is all that", when there are places in CA that are nicer with bigger homes and less attitude.

[silverkris]

Originally Posted by seain dublin

Because it's snobby, life is too short to be around people putting on airs.

Having lived in the Portland area a couple of years and working in Lake Oswego, I know what the OP means.

Yes, it's pretty. So are lots of places in Oregon.

There is an attitude in that area, and having lived in LA for years before and after found it "amusing", it's like "it's so cute you think your area is all that", when there are places in CA that are nicer with bigger homes and less attitude.

It's certainly possible. I could sell my modest ranch home in Silicon Valley and afford to buy a place in River Oaks, Houston, which is the Atherton of Houston, but I'm not sure I'd feel very comfortable there, because I've heard it's pretty snooty.

[NW4me]

Yes, I second that: welcome back, No More Snow.