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Old 08-07-2017, 12:47 AM
 
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California accounts for more than 90 percent of illegal U.S. marijuana farming, with much of it exported to other states from thousands of sites hidden deep inside forested federal land, and more on private property. That was a quote from the article below.

These illegal growers are decimating the land. Leaving behind toxic soil that's been permeated by fertilizers and pesticides long restricted or banned in the United States.

There is no bright side to this story but at least California isn't the only state experiencing this. Federal prosecutors have also charged pot growers with environmental crimes in Alaska, Oregon and Washington.

What annoys me the most about this is today's culture. All these pot growing proponents think about is the immediate satisfaction or gratification or whatever you want to call it without looking at the long term effects on the land or the people who inhabit it.

Where are the environmentalists? Where's the EPA? Why aren't they screaming about this? There's so much worry about people smoking lousy disgusting cigarettes on beaches and in parks while something even worse is going on right under their nose. Seriously, people are just plain stupid today.

Toxic waste from U.S. pot farms alarms experts
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Old 08-07-2017, 01:01 AM
 
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This is what happens when you kill blue collar labor with offshoring and regulation, kids.
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Old 08-07-2017, 03:24 AM
 
Location: Oroville, California
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Yeah, its pretty enraging to see what these low lifes are doing to the natural environment, especially state and national forests. Its even more enraging that a good portion of them are illegal aliens paid by Mexican drug cartels to do so.
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Old 08-07-2017, 07:48 AM
 
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Just curious which fertilizers and pesticides are being used that are banned in the US? Let's have some specifics if you want to get it stopped.
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Old 08-07-2017, 08:17 AM
 
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California accounts for more than 90 percent of illegal U.S. marijuana farming, with much of it exported to other states from thousands of sites hidden deep inside forested federal land, and more on private property. That was a quote from the article below.

These illegal growers are decimating the land. Leaving behind toxic soil that's been permeated by fertilizers and pesticides long restricted or banned in the United States.

There is no bright side to this story but at least California isn't the only state experiencing this. Federal prosecutors have also charged pot growers with environmental crimes in Alaska, Oregon and Washington.

What annoys me the most about this is today's culture. All these pot growing proponents think about is the immediate satisfaction or gratification or whatever you want to call it without looking at the long term effects on the land or the people who inhabit it.

Where are the environmentalists? Where's the EPA? Why aren't they screaming about this? There's so much worry about people smoking lousy disgusting cigarettes on beaches and in parks while something even worse is going on right under their nose. Seriously, people are just plain stupid today.

Toxic waste from U.S. pot farms alarms experts
Oh well, now that it is legal these farms will go away and only authorized growers will be supplying Pot, ....... right.

Obviously the users, other than legitimate medical users, do not care about the environment or illegal actions as long as they can get their high. Wonderful people, ... not.
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Old 08-07-2017, 11:27 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Just curious which fertilizers and pesticides are being used that are banned in the US? Let's have some specifics if you want to get it stopped.
https://merryjane.com/news/5-pestici...is-cultivation
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Old 08-07-2017, 01:33 PM
 
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This is what happens when you kill blue collar labor with offshoring and regulation, kids.
I think it's a little more complicated than that, GSR. Manufacturing in this country has been dying a slow death since the 90's. The loss of one sector does not equate into marijuana production. But it might explain the increasing number of people living in poverty.

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Yeah, its pretty enraging to see what these low lifes are doing to the natural environment, especially state and national forests. Its even more enraging that a good portion of them are illegal aliens paid by Mexican drug cartels to do so.
I imagine you see a lot more than those living in the middle and southern part of the state, Beau. Butte County is one of the more poorer counties in California and, having spent time there, can see that it draws a lot of the types that would be inclined to deal in drug manufacturing and dealing.

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Just curious which fertilizers and pesticides are being used that are banned in the US? Let's have some specifics if you want to get it stopped.
If I want to get it stopped? I highly doubt that giving specific names of banned chemicals is going to do anything to stop it. But, thank you to 1AngryTaxPayer for that list of chemicals.

You can find other sources where one can read about how bad it really is. Google is your friend but be careful. Don't take the word of mere bloggers who have an agenda to push. Look at real news sources, legitimate databases and such. I did find an interesting news report out of southern California, though. Unfortunately, it isn't about the illegal grows going on in the state. Frighteningly, it's about the legal ones. I think that makes this even worse.

Pesticides and Pot: What's California Smoking? - NBC Southern California

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Oh well, now that it is legal these farms will go away and only authorized growers will be supplying Pot, ....... right.

Obviously the users, other than legitimate medical users, do not care about the environment or illegal actions as long as they can get their high. Wonderful people, ... not.
Don't bet on it, expatCA. Illegal pot growing has been going on for decades and it won't stop just because the state has legalized it. And don't count on the assumption that just because it's a legally authorized plant grow, that it's any more healthy. As seen in the media report I linked above, even those who think they're buying "safe" marijuana are being fooled and the outcome could be deadly.

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Thank you for finding and posting this. Honestly, I don't think most people look beyond the actual product and what happens to it before it's cultivated and sold. Even with something as simple as fruits and vegetables. How many people do you think really ask "Where did this come from? How was it farmed? What type of chemicals were used to produce it?"

Sadly, it isn't just the foods we eat, either. Building supplies, especially those made in China, have proven to be toxic. But when you have someone who's trying to increase their bottom line, whether it be a manufacturer, distributor or tradesman, they will use the cheapest product they can so to increase their profit. They care very little about the quality or safety of the product.

Even our own state government does this. I'm reminded of the steel bolts used on the bay bridge and how cheaply they were made. Bought from China and installed, only to see problems within two years. And when was the last time you bought a hand tool, like a wrench, that didn't break when you applied any real pressure to it. Not like the stuff made 60 or 70 years ago. I still have (and use) hand tools my dad gave to me and they've outlasted anything I purchased in the past 20 years.
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