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Old 09-07-2017, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Katy-zuela
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Nothing resembling the "Don't Mess With Texas" campaign. TxDot could give some pointers.

I would have thought those bottle deposits would keep beverage container littering to a minimum. I've noticed in California that it's all about the money and putting prices on things tends to curb behaviors. A $1,000 fine is outrageous for a Texan but with the rich and poor in California, the fine is a balance between not hurting the poor too much and putting a slight dent in the pockets of the rich.
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:34 AM
 
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Nothing resembling the "Don't Mess With Texas" campaign. TxDot could give some pointers.

I would have thought those bottle deposits would keep beverage container littering to a minimum. I've noticed in California that it's all about the money and putting prices on things tends to curb behaviors. A $1,000 fine is outrageous for a Texan but with the rich and poor in California, the fine is a balance between not hurting the poor too much and putting a slight dent in the pockets of the rich.
even if you make it 10k..its hard to catch them
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:46 AM
 
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even if you make it 10k..its hard to catch them
Exactly. I commute between Palo Alto and Mountain View and rarely see CHP on US-101. As soon as I am in Chicagoland, I see state cops almost every single time on interstate highways. Its been my experience spotting them in nearly every other state, Colorado, Texas where I have seen people pulled over in many places. I think that our state police is just grossly underfunded and there is hardly any patrol, at least in the Bay Area.
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Old 09-07-2017, 01:30 PM
 
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Google street view had taken images since 2007 in San Jose. Though the pictures after 2012 shows significantly more litter in the same locations in 2011 and before. Despite how San Jose forcefully cleaned up many homeless encampments from creeks, freeway ramps, and roadsides starting 2012.

696 Tully road and La Ragione Av. San Jose, CA next to Coyote Creek.
2009 https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3096...7i13312!8i6656
2011 April https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3097...7i13312!8i6656
2014 ]https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3097...7i13312!8i6656
2015 https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3097...7i13312!8i6656

680 North McKee road offramp San Jose, CA
2008https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3662796,-121.8445295,3a,75y,13.09h,78.79t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxXMnpnnT2USFhuLUkN7YOQ!2e0!5s2 0080201T000000!7i3328!8i1664
2015
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3662...7i13312!8i6656

11 street San Jose beside 280 south onramp
2009https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3331788,-121.8740549,3a,90y,336.23h,84.11t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sTfKmtVdFcqHmla6TpXj53g!2e0!5s2 0110301T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Williams and 11st street San Jose
2009 https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3335...7i13312!8i6656
2013 https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3335...7i13312!8i6656

Blossom Hill Road to Monterey Hwy North, San Jose
2011https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2571506,-121.8004871,3a,89.9y,276.03h,69.26t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1slenC4rFAf8sRv6LFc8Wosw!2e0!5s2 0110501T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Fines don't work at all, and are pretty much unenforceable. Making it difficult to legally dispose of many items only makes the situation worse. Just like how making intersections far and difficult to navigate only encourages illegal turns and jaywalking. As the biggest culprits are caltrans vehicles, and refuse trucks, with unsecured garbage flying out it.

Though educating people to bag their garbage and recyclables would make a great difference. And reuse grocery bags to clean up the neighborhoods around them would also make a great difference. And most importantly simplify the procedure when a household need to dump hazardous and bulk items without having to pay a large haul away fee or drive to a far away dump site.
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Old 09-07-2017, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Tulare County, Ca
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I remember one time I was riding my horse and came upon a big pile of household trash along the road. I saw what appeared to be some envelopes and utility bills and such, so I got off and picked a few up. Sure enough the dumper threw out some identifying bills with his address on them. He just lived about a quarter mile from the dump site in a section of nicely kept homes, his being all pretty and clean. So I rode back home and got my truck. Went back and picked up all the trash, waited until night, went back to his residence and threw his trash back out onto his yard.

I'm hoping he got the message when he went out for his morning paper, lol.
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Old 09-07-2017, 07:54 PM
 
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I remember one time I was riding my horse and came upon a big pile of household trash along the road. I saw what appeared to be some envelopes and utility bills and such, so I got off and picked a few up. Sure enough the dumper threw out some identifying bills with his address on them. He just lived about a quarter mile from the dump site in a section of nicely kept homes, his being all pretty and clean. So I rode back home and got my truck. Went back and picked up all the trash, waited until night, went back to his residence and threw his trash back out onto his yard.

I'm hoping he got the message when he went out for his morning paper, lol.
Love it. Hope you spread it around a bit.
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:59 PM
 
Location: USA
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Maybe they're fining people, for budget revenue, instead of having them do highway clean-up? You may have something, there.
Oh I get it now...those monies of course would only be delegated to use current or newly hired city workers to do the much needed trash cleanup, or maybe contract independent companies to do the job...hey, it could happen...they do care!
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Old 09-08-2017, 12:13 PM
 
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Litterbugs get my attention more than any other scumbag, however, I don't get mad, I get even.

Like the time I was driving behind a car in Palm Desert and watched the driver, a young girl, toss a handful of napkins out her window followed by a fast food bag and drink cup. I played it cool and followed her until she pulled into a store parking lot and went in to shop.

I parked, wrote a tactful note to leave on her car, then proceeded to collect every bit of garbage around the lot, including empty oil bottles, pop cans, diapers, gum and whatever else I could find. If it was dripping with goo I grabbed it also.

Thankfully it was warm out and this girl left her windows down just enough to allow the garbage to fit inside so that's where it all went, dripping goo while covering her seats. Then I tucked the note, which said "please think before tossing garbage out in the street as you never know who's watching", under her windshield wiper and left.

I don't recall the kind of car but, I do remember it was fairly new and very nice. So glad I always have a pair of work gloves in my car along with a notebook and pen.
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Old 09-08-2017, 12:49 PM
 
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Litterbugs get my attention more than any other scumbag, however, I don't get mad, I get even.

Like the time I was driving behind a car in Palm Desert and watched the driver, a young girl, toss a handful of napkins out her window followed by a fast food bag and drink cup. I played it cool and followed her until she pulled into a store parking lot and went in to shop.

I parked, wrote a tactful note to leave on her car, then proceeded to collect every bit of garbage around the lot, including empty oil bottles, pop cans, diapers, gum and whatever else I could find. If it was dripping with goo I grabbed it also.

Thankfully it was warm out and this girl left her windows down just enough to allow the garbage to fit inside so that's where it all went, dripping goo while covering her seats. Then I tucked the note, which said "please think before tossing garbage out in the street as you never know who's watching", under her windshield wiper and left.

I don't recall the kind of car but, I do remember it was fairly new and very nice. So glad I always have a pair of work gloves in my car along with a notebook and pen.
Priceless.
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Old 09-11-2017, 04:57 PM
 
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I hate Litterbugs too....I am constantly picking up trash on my street,or when I go for my walks,bike rides,to the park,beaches or practically anywhere that it causes an eyesore,or I report it to the city if their is a large amount of litter/debris in an area that needs cleanup.

Unfortunately some people just depend on the city street sweepers or the city workers in cleaning up trash...I sometimes wish I had the power to magically collect all trash and dump it all on the Litterbugs front yard or in their vehicles for them to clean it up.

Litter and also Graffiti drive me nuts

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Litterbugs get my attention more than any other scumbag, however, I don't get mad, I get even.
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