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Old 09-16-2017, 01:11 AM
 
Location: Mayacama Mtns in CA
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I agree, I'm a lifelong liberal democrat and I do not like what the party has become. I do not think our colleges are teaching liberty and freedom. Their idea of liberty and freedom is communist dogma executed with propaganda, intolerance, and violence. They are full of hypocrisy and denial. Their agenda is to divide and tear down the current american democratic system and replace it with some form leftist communism. The mainstream media has become this unfair all-powerful propaganda machine telling lies and distorting the truth. I don't subscribe to any right wing ideology. I simply can see what the left has become because I know what real liberty and freedom means. These leftists are making it so that young folks do not really understand what liberty and freedom are anymore.
You know, I'm a classical conservative American and I agree very strongly with much of what you've written here. I'm so happy to hear that there are classically liberal thinkers who feel the way you do.

I think there are millions of us out there, but we just don't know how to find each other to form, IDK, the Centrist Party? Just thinking out loud here.



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Old 09-16-2017, 11:03 PM
 
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You know, I'm a classical conservative American and I agree very strongly with much of what you've written here. I'm so happy to hear that there are classically liberal thinkers who feel the way you do.

I think there are millions of us out there, but we just don't know how to find each other to form, IDK, the Centrist Party? Just thinking out loud here.
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A few more thoughts:

We are living in a time when our mainstream media is the most powerful it has ever been and unfortunately it is the most corrupt it has ever been. They have a monopoly over our news. They lie and discredit. They distort the truth and manipulate the news. Many are hypocrites and many live in a state of denial. If they don't like you or what you have to say, they will assassinate your character.

Our 3 branches of gov't were designed to be a check on each others powers. But who or what checks the all- powerful media? Traditionally, the media checks the media. The media used to be diverse enough and self-critical enough to be a check on itself. But what happens when the media becomes a monopoly and supports only one agenda, and becomes corrupt and a propaganda arm of certain ideologies.

Congress makes laws, the President and the Executive Branch executes those laws, and the Judicial Branch interprets those laws to make sure they are constitutional, which is the highest law of the land. The media is supposed to tell the truth, and be fair and follow good journalism. That clearly is no longer the case regarding the mainstream media.
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Old 09-17-2017, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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The judicial branch has evolved into now making laws to suit their personal agenda.
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Old 09-19-2017, 10:27 AM
 
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A few more thoughts:

We are living in a time when our mainstream media is the most powerful it has ever been and unfortunately it is the most corrupt it has ever been. They have a monopoly over our news. They lie and discredit. They distort the truth and manipulate the news. Many are hypocrites and many live in a state of denial. If they don't like you or what you have to say, they will assassinate your character.

Our 3 branches of gov't were designed to be a check on each others powers. But who or what checks the all- powerful media? Traditionally, the media checks the media. The media used to be diverse enough and self-critical enough to be a check on itself. But what happens when the media becomes a monopoly and supports only one agenda, and becomes corrupt and a propaganda arm of certain ideologies.

Congress makes laws, the President and the Executive Branch executes those laws, and the Judicial Branch interprets those laws to make sure they are constitutional, which is the highest law of the land. The media is supposed to tell the truth, and be fair and follow good journalism. That clearly is no longer the case regarding the mainstream media.
Wow, you're on fire Chimerique.

In case people don't know what Classical Liberalism is, here it is:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU-8Uz_nMaQ
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Old 09-19-2017, 10:47 AM
 
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A few more thoughts:

We are living in a time when our mainstream media is the most powerful it has ever been and unfortunately it is the most corrupt it has ever been. They have a monopoly over our news. They lie and discredit. They distort the truth and manipulate the news. Many are hypocrites and many live in a state of denial. If they don't like you or what you have to say, they will assassinate your character.

Our 3 branches of gov't were designed to be a check on each others powers. But who or what checks the all- powerful media? Traditionally, the media checks the media. The media used to be diverse enough and self-critical enough to be a check on itself. But what happens when the media becomes a monopoly and supports only one agenda, and becomes corrupt and a propaganda arm of certain ideologies.

Congress makes laws, the President and the Executive Branch executes those laws, and the Judicial Branch interprets those laws to make sure they are constitutional, which is the highest law of the land. The media is supposed to tell the truth, and be fair and follow good journalism. That clearly is no longer the case regarding the mainstream media.
I'm being honest here, Chimérique might one of my new favorite posters.
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Old 09-19-2017, 12:10 PM
 
Location: USA
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A few more thoughts:

We are living in a time when our mainstream media is the most powerful it has ever been and unfortunately it is the most corrupt it has ever been. They have a monopoly over our news. They lie and discredit. They distort the truth and manipulate the news. Many are hypocrites and many live in a state of denial. If they don't like you or what you have to say, they will assassinate your character.

Our 3 branches of gov't were designed to be a check on each others powers. But who or what checks the all- powerful media? Traditionally, the media checks the media. The media used to be diverse enough and self-critical enough to be a check on itself. But what happens when the media becomes a monopoly and supports only one agenda, and becomes corrupt and a propaganda arm of certain ideologies.

Congress makes laws, the President and the Executive Branch executes those laws, and the Judicial Branch interprets those laws to make sure they are constitutional, which is the highest law of the land. The media is supposed to tell the truth, and be fair and follow good journalism. That clearly is no longer the case regarding the mainstream media.
This is the second post of yours in which I totally agree. That is why I always cite the Media, Education, AND the current Democrat Party as a "cabal" which is anti American, corrupt, and self serving elitists. There is no check, and balance on the media any longer except for a few programs, and talk radio shows. Dennis Prager is one of them, and Tucker Carlson is another.
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Old 09-19-2017, 12:32 PM
 
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It's happening with print too.

Lefty rag Rolling Stones is now for sale. Not sure why anyone would buy it though. No one reads it, and even less people PAY to read it. The magazine has spent the past 30 years ****ting all over conservatives, and glorifying terrorist like the Tsarnaev brothers.



It's no wonder no one reads that filth anymore.

I'll buy it for tree fiddy.
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Old 09-19-2017, 01:45 PM
 
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This is the second post of yours in which I totally agree. That is why I always cite the Media, Education, AND the current Democrat Party as a "cabal" which is anti American, corrupt, and self serving elitists. There is no check, and balance on the media any longer except for a few programs, and talk radio shows. Dennis Prager is one of them, and Tucker Carlson is another.
The Dems in control in the past looked into the future and began to control both which impacts the young who grow up and vote. Nose of the camel and now the whole body is in the tent. The Republicans did not look to the future but the now and the money they could make.
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Old 09-19-2017, 03:45 PM
 
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I am a Democrat of the previous generation (am 50 soon! Still look good ) and hate the far right. I mean HATE them. I however am also not fond of the extreme left. There is a different - one is about inclusion and the former about exclusion of all but a narrow group but I feel both are undesirable.

Peaceful free speech is a cornerstone of democracy but once it gets violent, the state should come down with force. I just want a normal society (and normal here meaning in line with obvious and universal traditional values) without freaks on either end of the spectrum making a scene.
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Old 09-19-2017, 06:02 PM
 
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In fascism the controlling elite attempt to control and limit the flow of information or free thought. Who does that sound like exactly??? Yup, the lefties in California and at Google and so on.
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