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Old 09-27-2017, 09:45 PM
 
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Can you imagine the repercussions on our economy. The auto industry, the oil and gas industry, after market parts, we're talking hundreds of thousands of jobs. And they want to have open borders. Tax every cent out of you. Not allow you to vote on measures. What the heck is happening here.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...engine-car-ban

Governor Jerry Brown has expressed an interest in barring the sale of vehicles powered by internal-combustion engines, Mary Nichols, chairman of the California Air Resources Board, said in an interview Friday at Bloomberg headquarters in New York. The earliest such a ban is at least a decade away, she said.
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Old 09-27-2017, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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What that article doesn't say is that Norway and the U.K. have already passed resolutions banning the sale of ICE cars by 2025 and 2040, respectively. It tries to position the ban as a "crazy communist China" thing... Which it isn't - Western democracies did it first.

We have to survive on this planet for the foreseeable future, so combating climate change is an absolute necessity. If you're concerned about the economy, you should be much more worried about the economic effects of rising sea levels on our coastal cities (where all of our jobs/infrastructure are and where shipping takes place) than you are about the oil and gas industry.

These countries want to ban gas and diesel cars - Sep. 11, 2017
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Old 09-28-2017, 10:23 AM
 
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Wtf we were supposed to have flying cars and moving sidewalks by Y2K. This is just another pipe dream for liberals. whats funny is that this will impact the poor more than the rich/wealthy who can afford to go buy a electric car. Poor people can't just buy a new electric car at the drop of a hat.
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Old 09-28-2017, 12:09 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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He can speculate all he wants, but it'll never happen in the remaining 2 years of his admin. Dream on!

Banning ICE's would mean banning hybrids. Or would they be allowed? Has anyone really thought this through?
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Old 09-28-2017, 12:25 PM
 
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He just watched "The Jetsons" too much when he was a kid. He will outgrow it.
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Old 09-28-2017, 12:56 PM
 
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Can you imagine the repercussions on our economy. The auto industry, the oil and gas industry, after market parts, we're talking hundreds of thousands of jobs.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...engine-car-ban
Your headline is misleading. Brown isn't banning cars.

If you read the Bloomberg article you've linked to it says:

Governor Jerry Brown has expressed an interest in barring the sale of vehicles powered by internal-combustion engines

You'd still be able to drive those cars in California, as well as drive cars powered by non-fossil fuels.

People are always complaining about the gas tax in California -- well, switching to a car powered by an alternate fuel would solve that problem, wouldn't it?

(And, yes, I'm sure the state would find a way to still collect its dreaded due on those vehicles as well).

And, as noted above, this is just Brown's idea; it would have a long road (no pun intended) to get passed legislatively.

I can hear the lobbyists for the used car dealers, gas stations, and oil companies tuning up their battle gear already.

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Old 09-28-2017, 01:02 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Your headline is misleading. Brown doesn't want to ban cars.

If you read the Bloomberg article you've linked to it says:

Governor Jerry Brown has expressed an interest in barring the sale of vehicles powered by internal-combustion engines

You'd still be able to drive those cars in California, as well as drive cars powered by non-fossil fuels.

People are always complaining about the gas tax in California -- well, switching to a car powered by an alternate fuel would solve that problem, wouldn't it?

(And, yes, I'm sure the state would find a way to still collect its dreaded due on those vehicles as well).
Sounds like the OP may not be fond of Ol' Jerr.
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Old 09-28-2017, 01:06 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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30 years is a drop of a hat? Poor people aren't buying new cars anyway. There will still be millions of ICE cars on the used market for decades.
Nah, the government will have all those cars destroyed and herd the poor into some corner of the city off the beaten path and out of sight. Because it's for their own good, supposedly.
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Old 09-28-2017, 01:12 PM
 
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Sounds like the OP may not be fond of Ol' Jerr.
Gee, ya think?
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Old 09-28-2017, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The truth is that not that many people want an electric car, let alone ONLY an electric car. That's why the government has to subsidize their purchase. Even the recent Newhall Ranch project had to agree to subsidize electric cars as part of the blackmail to environmental groups. If they were so great, you wouldn't have to pay or force people to drive them.

Deal for new city at Newhall Ranch fuels development boom transforming northern L.A. County - LA Times
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