Experts: Deadly California hepatitis A outbreak may linger for year or more (Los Angeles: buy, camps)

[k81689]

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Experts: Deadly California hepatitis A outbreak may linger for year or more

Experts: Deadly California hepatitis A outbreak may linger for year or more

Should food vendors either for profit or non profit be regulated under the same laws/regulations/requirements? Or Are they now?

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by k81689

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Experts: Deadly California hepatitis A outbreak may linger for year or more

Experts: Deadly California hepatitis A outbreak may linger for year or more

Should food vendors either for profit or non profit be regulated under the same laws/regulations/requirements? Or Are they now?

Glad the ACLU and Democrats allowed these homeless camps in Anaheim and Silicon Valley to hang around for years where rampant drug use, squalor, and trash was just allowed to accumulate and fester because "feelings".

[RosieSD]

Originally Posted by k81689

Should food vendors either for profit or non profit be regulated under the same laws/regulations/requirements? Or Are they now?

Restaurants don't have anything to do with the current Hep A outbreak in San Diego County. Thousands of people sleeping on the streets without proper sanitation sharing food, drugs, etc. are the cause.

That said, California already has some of the strictest food preparation safety laws and requirements in the nation. Not sure we need to pile on more regulations, although I wouldn't be opposed to requiring Hep A vaccines for food service workers.

By the way, the media hasn't mentioned this, but there have been outbreaks of Hep A that were larger than the one in San Diego in the past. For example, in 2003, over 560 people caught Hep A from eating at a single Chi-Chi's restaurant in Pennsylvania. So, again, I wouldn't be opposed to requiring Hep A vaccines for food service workers.

The real reason the current outbreak in San Diego is attracting so much media attention is because of its connection with the homeless population. The homeless situation in San Diego County (and indeed in most west coast cities) is simply out of control and has been horribly mismanaged by local governments. The city has allowed third world conditions to fester for years, and now they are scrambling to fix the inevitable results of their lack of action.

So, maybe what we really need are some laws and regulations requiring local governments to solve the homeless crisis.

[RosieSD]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

Glad the ACLU and Democrats allowed these homeless camps in Anaheim and Silicon Valley to hang around for years where rampant drug use, squalor, and trash was just allowed to accumulate and fester because "feelings".

Actually, in the City of San Diego, where the Hep A outbreak is happening, has had more Republican mayors than Democratic mayors over the last 30 years. So, I wouldn't blame San Diego's current Hep A problem or gigantic homeless population solely on Democrats.

Republican mayors in San Diego have had ample chances to solve the homeless problem here, but failed to do anything but turn their heads and pretend it wasn't getting worse.

Witness the current Republican mayor's ineffectual handling of the outbreak since it started last Fall. No action taken until the story of what has been going on for the last 9 months broke in the National media.

Also, isn't the current mayor of Anaheim a Republican too? And the mayor before him was as well.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by RosieSD

Restaurants don't have anything to do with the current Hep A outbreak in San Diego County. Thousands of people sleeping on the streets without proper sanitation sharing food, drugs, etc. are the cause.

That said, California already has some of the strictest food preparation safety laws and requirements in the nation. Not sure we need to pile on more regulations, although I wouldn't be opposed to requiring Hep A vaccines for food service workers.

By the way, the media hasn't mentioned this, but there have been outbreaks of Hep A that were larger than the one in San Diego in the past. For example, in 2003, over 560 people caught Hep A from eating at a single Chi-Chi's restaurant in Pennsylvania. So, again, I wouldn't be opposed to requiring Hep A vaccines for food service workers.

The real reason the current outbreak in San Diego is attracting so much media attention is because of its connection with the homeless population. The homeless situation in San Diego County (and indeed in most west coast cities) is simply out of control and has been horribly mismanaged by local governments. The city has allowed third world conditions to fester for years, and now they are scrambling to fix the inevitable results of their lack of action.

So, maybe what we really need are some laws and regulations requiring local governments to solve the homeless crisis.

Uniquely LA at least does not, as it does nothing about street vendors and in fact encourages them and ... Licensing does not seem to be a big deal. Humm on the street, no sanitation .... I would not buy from one now.

[RosieSD]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Uniquely LA at least does not, as it does nothing about street vendors and in fact encourages them and ... Licensing does not seem to be a big deal. Humm on the street, no sanitation .... I would not buy from one now.

Actually, food carts have been illegal in Los Angeles for many years. LA is the only major city where that is the case.

What's changed recently is that now the city is trying to make them legal and in an effort get them permitted. You probably won't like the reasons for it, though.

See the article below:

Los Angeles Moves Closer To Legalizing Sidewalk Food Vendors : The Salt : NPR

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The hepatitis A virus is supposedly a bit harder to kill then some other viruses. Alcohol based hand wipes may be ineffective. But, frequent hand washing is a prudent thing to do. Sodium hypochlorite solution (bleach) of enough strength
is quite effective on possibly contaminated surfaces

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by RosieSD

Actually, food carts have been illegal in Los Angeles for many years. LA is the only major city where that is the case.

What's changed recently is that now the city is trying to make them legal and in an effort get them permitted. You probably won't like the reasons for it, though.

See the article below:

Los Angeles Moves Closer To Legalizing Sidewalk Food Vendors : The Salt : NPR

From what I have seen and heard, food carts exist there and if the next step passes it will get worse. Nothing against them in general, but if not closely watched and certified, etc like a Restaurant, bad things will happen eventually.

Quote from the site:

"Street vendors want this," Fox says. "They're the ones at the forefront of this campaign saying, 'Hey, we're in. We want to get a permit and play ball.'"

They are already there and unpermitted.

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by RosieSD

Actually, in the City of San Diego, where the Hep A outbreak is happening, has had more Republican mayors than Democratic mayors over the last 30 years. So, I wouldn't blame San Diego's current Hep A problem or gigantic homeless population solely on Democrats.

Republican mayors in San Diego have had ample chances to solve the homeless problem here, but failed to do anything but turn their heads and pretend it wasn't getting worse.

Witness the current Republican mayor's ineffectual handling of the outbreak since it started last Fall. No action taken until the story of what has been going on for the last 9 months broke in the National media.

Also, isn't the current mayor of Anaheim a Republican too? And the mayor before him was as well.

Mayors have actually very little power to "fix homelessness". It's not like they can tell judges to NOT listen to the ACLU. You should probably do a little research on how the courts work in California.

The ACLU leadership is run by strongly LEFT Democrats. They have used lawsuits and every legal tool at their disposal to stop the Anaheim camp from being moved for years. What do you think a mayor can do when a judge is basically telling them they can't forcibly remove the squalor in their own city?

Right now the largest homeless camps in California are in Los Angeles and San Jose, two extremely LEFT leaning, DEMOCRAT controlled areas.

That's not an accident.

[k81689]

This could be deemed cold hearted. Apply same laws, regulations and requirements to every food vendors either for profit or for non profit. For example, cities shut down lots of bars/restaurants/businesses at any places.

If there is no free food in the city, they have to move to other city for free food.

If one can sell food at any city streets/parks/public places for $0.00 or $-10.00, then anyone should be able to sell food at any city streets/parks/public places for $20.00 $90.00... without any regulations/requirements. Then anyone can sell food and do business at any city streets/parks/public places.