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Old 10-11-2017, 09:34 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Why should they? Do you think people who are arrested admit to the jail that they are in the US illegally? Should jails call ICE on everyone who speaks Spanish and doesn't have an ID card on them? Maybe you should go visit the booking center at the LA county jail and then tell me how much time the staff has to interrogate prisoners about their immigration status and make phone calls to ICE.
Believe it or not police have the ability to determine identity. Like fingers prints.
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Old 10-11-2017, 09:41 PM
 
Location: 130 Miles E of Sacramento
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The State of California gives drivers' licenses to Illegals while at the same time lets you register to vote at the DMV.
While claiming that there wasn't illegals voting.
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Old 10-11-2017, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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That is what the Feds do. They want states to do certain things and with hold funds until the states do it. Why do you think drinking age is mostly 21? Why do you think speed limits are pretty consistent across states? Same with seat belt laws? Federal government held back funds until the states did what the Feds wanted.
It is the same thing the Feds have threatened in re sanctuary cities.
You might want to read this article...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/28/o...ry-cities.html
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Old 10-11-2017, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Believe it or not police have the ability to determine identity. Like fingers prints.
Believe it or not, so does ICE
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Old 10-11-2017, 09:48 PM
 
Location: 130 Miles E of Sacramento
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There is some truth to that, but my youngest lives in Martinez and is doing ok there, he pays $1,040 a month for a 1 bedroom duplex. Just sayin there are a number of places in California that aren't crazy expensive.
I hope his job is not in San Francisco or Oakand because trying to make the commute can be difficult, especially during rush hour when freeways are backed.
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:04 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Believe it or not, so does ICE
So you want ice finger printing people on the streets?

You are really on the losing side of this issue. Even in this state sanctuary policy isn't supported by the majority of the people.
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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So you want ice finger printing people on the streets?
You are really on the losing side of this issue. Even in this state sanctuary policy isn't supported by the majority of the people.
Unless the detained person was previously deported what the heck do you think fingerprints would prove? Do you think that the fingerprints of "illegals" look different than other fingerprints? Do you think we have the fingerprints on file of everyone who has ever entered this country illegally? The feds can access whatever records they want, including fingerprint records.

As far as your claim that the sanctuary policy is not supported by a majority of the people, that's not quite right either.

"A recent UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies poll indicates Californians have conflicting views on sanctuary. The poll found 56 percent of state voters support communities declaring themselves sanctuaries and instructing law enforcement not to automatically call immigration agents to report undocumented immigrants. On the other hand, the poll found 53 percent oppose the right of cities and counties to ignore federal requests to detain those in the country illegally who have been arrested and are going to be released".
Release #2017-02: Californians hold divided and partisan views about sanctuary cities;* This contrasts with bipartisan support for providing undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship and opposition to building the U.S.-Mexico wall. [eScholarsh
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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I hope his job is not in San Francisco or Oakand because trying to make the commute can be difficult, especially during rush hour when freeways are backed.
no, he lives quite close to where he works. But actually driving from Martinez to Oakland isn't all that bad if you take 680 and 24, it's probably 35 to 40 minutes max leaving at 7:00 AM, or you could take North Concord Bart to Oakland. San Francisco would suck though.
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:01 AM
 
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To the people that agree with this sanctuary law: Local agencies regularly work on task forces with feds, there could be teams with police, sheriffs, DEA, FBI, ICE, each there to enforce their respective jurisdiction. Sanctuary laws specifically disconnect local agencies and ICE. Why do you not want the same from all of the other government agencies if they are equally as much of a burden? Do you expect a local agency to detain, work on task forces or "call up" the FBI, DEA, ATF, SS, etc.? Why not ICE?
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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To the people that agree with this sanctuary law: Local agencies regularly work on task forces with feds, there could be teams with police, sheriffs, DEA, FBI, ICE, each there to enforce their respective jurisdiction. Sanctuary laws specifically disconnect local agencies and ICE. Why do you not want the same from all of the other government agencies if they are equally as much of a burden? Do you expect a local agency to detain, work on task forces or "call up" the FBI, DEA, ATF, SS, etc.? Why not ICE?
Why should taxpayers pay for their local law enforcement personnel to round up illegals rather than doing work that actually makes their community safer?
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