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Old 10-30-2017, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Jurupa Valley, CA, USA 92509
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My sister still lives there. During the summer, she cannot go outside. Too windy, too hot, and her eyes burn. Sometimes she can't breathe. Its smoggy, nasty and unhealthy. But yeah..houses can be cheap. If you want to trade your health for a cheap house.
But the desert area of Kern County (the focusing topic of this thread) has cleaner air, no?
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Old 10-30-2017, 09:40 PM
 
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High profile vehicles like semis can get blown over driving on 58 when it is windy enough. It’s windy enough to do that up there at least a few times a year. 30, 40, 50 mph winds are not super rare or anything.

Kern County as a whole is very affordable, but there is some crime. Some places are better than others, like everywhere. Again, commenting on the cities that you specifically named, Rosamond would be your best bet.
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Old 10-30-2017, 09:42 PM
 
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But the desert area of Kern County has cleaner air, no?
The air in the Tehachapi pass, Mojave desert and up near Lake Isabella/Kernville is all going to be better than Bakersfield/Arvin/Lamont, etc..
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Old 10-30-2017, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Jurupa Valley, CA, USA 92509
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High profile vehicles like semis can get blown over driving on 58 when it is windy enough. It’s windy enough to do that up there at least a few times a year. 30, 40, 50 mph winds are not super rare or anything.

Kern County as a whole is very affordable, but there is some crime. Some places are better than others, like everywhere. Again, commenting on the cities that you specifically named, Rosamond would be your best bet.
What area in the Kern County desert area would you say is the worst, in your opinion?
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Old 10-30-2017, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Calif
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The air in the Tehachapi pass, Mojave desert and up near Lake Isabella/Kernville is all going to be better than Bakersfield/Arvin/Lamont, etc..
This^^^
The valley is a dip. Surrounded on both sides with mountains. Air quality is bad in that valley. But, higher up it's not AS bad. Still bad though.
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Old 10-30-2017, 10:15 PM
 
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What area in the Kern County desert area would you say is the worst, in your opinion?
Going to go ahead and guess the Cal City, North Edwards, Boron stretch.
Not sure if I’ve ever heard anything good about them.
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Old 10-30-2017, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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Yet another area of California that I'm interested to know more about, and that is the desert area of Kern County.

I'm pretty sure that it doesn't get quite as baking hot as the SoCal low desert and Death Valley, correct?

Cities/towns/unincorporated communities in the Kern County desert area include:

Ridgecrest, California City, Rosamond, Mojave, Inyokern, Boron, North Edwards, Aerial Acres, Indian Wells, Johannesburg, Randsburg, and China Lake.

There's also the ghost town of Atolia. Are there any others in the Kern County desert area?

I checked the real estate prices for Boron and Mojave on Realtor and Zillow, and Boron seems to be the cheapest in the Kern County desert area.

So, what can you guys tell me about each of them? What are they like? What about the quality of life, cost of living, annual income, crime, etc.?

Any answers, insights, and opinions are greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance!
Atolia is in San Bernardino County, it is just south of Red Mountain, which is in San Bernardino County as well.

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Actually, Trona is located in San Bernardino County, roughly 25 miles southeast of Ridgecrest.
Trona is northeast of Ridgecrest.


One could make an argument to include the eastern Kern River Valley towns in this group, i.e. Onyx, Weldon, etc.

Here is my legendary thread regarding Ridgecrest from 2007:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/calif...ml#post1678094

That and everything else I've told you about it pretty much covers it.

Not quite as hot as the CV, and definitely for not as long. Ridgecrest is in the 110's for much of the summer. Not much below 90 at night generally.

My favorite parts are:
-unincorporated SE Ridgecrest
-the San Bernardino County portion with a Ridgecrest address
-Buttermilk/China Lake Acres
-Inyokern (I love me some Inyokern)
^ all of these are primarily trailers on dirt roads. So freaking appealing for some reason.
-Rosamond, though creeping suburbia is taking the appeal away
-Mojave, a dying truck stop town, but I love it
-Johannesburg, so peaceful, near the top of the surrounding hills/desert

California City absolutely sucks. I've never been to Boron proper (though Kramer Jct is reasonably close) or North Edwards, believe it or not. Same for Aerial Acres and Randsburg.

Indian Wells is for all intents/purposes Inyokern, but this place has awesome root beer next door, and chicken that tastes like it was literally slaughtered five minutes ago {yum} (wife took me there for my 23rd birthday, in a limo to boot).

And you Brandon will not get to China Lake without a military clearance, which is only given to those who have a legitimate reason to be there. I am not allowed to talk about what I've seen there (they make this pretty clear on your way in and out), but there are streets in the southern portion (as can be seen on satellite maps) which previously had housing on them, all of which was leveled at least two decades ago.

The culture in many of these towns is primarily derived from fairly to staunchly conservative White Americans (many of whom are also native-Californians), who range from working class to upper-middle class, with a skew toward the lower end (there are a lot of lower level jobs staffed by Whites in this area, something that you simply don't see in the rest of Southern California, which can be a surprise for some folks {I'm not trying to be politically incorrect or correct here, it's just the way it is}. There is a notable lack of Latinos in comparison to most of the rest of California, and a noted comparable lack of diversity overall (along with plenty of open racism).

It isn't nearly as religious or bible-thumping as you would think, and things that most of us would consider pretty taboo are a lot more tolerated than average IMO (alcoholism, sexual abuse, incest, physical abuse, general criminality, drugs, infidelity, broken homes). There is a ton of support for the military. Country music. Welfare, food stamps, section 8, and people living in trailers not terribly suitable for human habitation, and plenty of people with criminal records. But also a strong middle and fairly visible upper-middle class, including many with advanced educations.

Dirtbiking and riding ATV's is very popular. Watching football. Going to Lake Isabella to chill in a boat (or for a swim), or to a cabin in Kernville. Sledding at Walker Pass. Skiing in Mammoth if you're so inclined. Keggers. Going out to dinner, or for a trip to Lancaster/Palmdale, Bakersfield, or San Diego. Los Angeles only if you're particularly ambitious.

But mostly, just a lot of drinking.
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Old 10-30-2017, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Jurupa Valley, CA, USA 92509
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Count David Aguilar, since your area of expertise is Ridgecrest and the surrounding areas, perhaps you can chime in and tell me about Ridgecrest, California City, Rosamond, Mojave, Inyokern, Boron, North Edwards, Aerial Acres, Indian Wells, Johannesburg, Randsburg, and/or China Lake.

I am waiting for your assessment.
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Old 10-30-2017, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Jurupa Valley, CA, USA 92509
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Atolia is in San Bernardino County, it is just south of Red Mountain, which is in San Bernardino County as well.



Trona is northeast of Ridgecrest.


One could make an argument to include the eastern Kern River Valley towns in this group, i.e. Onyx, Weldon, etc.

Here is my legendary thread regarding Ridgecrest from 2007:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/calif...ml#post1678094

That and everything else I've told you about it pretty much covers it.

Not quite as hot as the CV, and definitely for not as long. Ridgecrest is in the 110's for much of the summer. Not much below 90 at night generally.

My favorite parts are:
-unincorporated SE Ridgecrest
-the San Bernardino County portion with a Ridgecrest address
-Buttermilk/China Lake Acres
-Inyokern (I love me some Inyokern)
^ all of these are primarily trailers on dirt roads. So freaking appealing for some reason.
-Rosamond, though creeping suburbia is taking the appeal away
-Mojave, a dying truck stop town, but I love it
-Johannesburg, so peaceful, near the top of the surrounding hills/desert

California City absolutely sucks. I've never been to Boron proper (though Kramer Jct is reasonably close) or North Edwards, believe it or not. Same for Aerial Acres and Randsburg.

Indian Wells is for all intents/purposes Inyokern, but this place has awesome root beer next door, and chicken that tastes like it was literally slaughtered five minutes ago {yum} (wife took me there for my 23rd birthday, in a limo to boot).

And you Brandon will not get to China Lake without a military clearance, which is only given to those who have a legitimate reason to be there. I am not allowed to talk about what I've seen there (they make this pretty clear on your way in and out), but there are streets in the southern portion (as can be seen on satellite maps) which previously had housing on them, all of which was leveled at least two decades ago.

The culture in many of these towns is primarily derived from fairly to staunchly conservative White Americans (many of whom are also native-Californians), who range from working class to upper-middle class, with a skew toward the lower end (there are a lot of lower level jobs staffed by Whites in this area, something that you simply don't see in the rest of Southern California, which can be a surprise for some folks {I'm not trying to be politically incorrect or correct here, it's just the way it is}. There is a notable lack of Latinos in comparison to most of the rest of California, and a noted comparable lack of diversity overall (along with plenty of open racism).

It isn't nearly as religious or bible-thumping as you would think, and things that most of us would consider pretty taboo are a lot more tolerated than average IMO (alcoholism, sexual abuse, incest, physical abuse, general criminality, drugs, infidelity, broken homes). There is a ton of support for the military. Country music. Welfare, food stamps, section 8, and people living in trailers not terribly suitable for human habitation, and plenty of people with criminal records. But also a strong middle and fairly visible upper-middle class, including many with advanced educations.

Dirtbiking and riding ATV's is very popular. Watching football. Going to Lake Isabella to chill in a boat (or for a swim), or to a cabin in Kernville. Sledding at Walker Pass. Skiing in Mammoth if you're so inclined. Keggers. Going out to dinner, or for a trip to Lancaster/Palmdale, Bakersfield, or San Diego. Los Angeles only if you're particularly ambitious.

But mostly, just a lot of drinking.
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Old 10-30-2017, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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Oops! Never mind, you already did.
Hahah, I was going to say, look up at my post from 10 min ago.
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