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Old 10-12-2018, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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Didn’t say I intended to accomplish it. Pointed out that is the problem. “More people” doesn’t improve anything. Traffic. Congestion, resource consumption. Pricing pressures. Psychological aggravation. Polarizations of all kinds as people go at each other.
You are just pointing out the obvious. The supply of housing has to increase to meet the demand. Of course there is a limit as there is only so much land but we still have a long ways to go before that becomes a limiting factor. The major limiting factor is government regulation. Despite the very liberal politics, California is still a pretty desirable place to live.
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Old 10-12-2018, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Arcadia, CA
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We don’t need more rentals. That’s not the problem. We need fewer people moving to the area.
Agreed. However that is unlikely to happen unless there is someway to move some of the big business to other less developed areas.
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Old 10-12-2018, 09:26 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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You are just pointing out the obvious. The supply of housing has to increase to meet the demand. Of course there is a limit as there is only so much land but we still have a long ways to go before that becomes a limiting factor. The major limiting factor is government regulation. Despite the very liberal politics, California is still a pretty desirable place to live.
No. It doesn’t. The developers will continue to press and coerce ... and I assume development will continue. But no, there’s no immutable mandate or law of physics at work.

Having “a long ways to go” doesn’t justify or make it a good idea. Lots of undesirable things are possible. Doesn’t make them good ideas / actions.

The only point to growth at this point is creation of more consumption which makes a very small slice of the population richer and richer ... until we all choke to death on ourselves and our garbage lives.
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Old 10-12-2018, 11:37 PM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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No. It doesn’t. The developers will continue to press and coerce ... and I assume development will continue. But no, there’s no immutable mandate or law of physics at work.

Having “a long ways to go” doesn’t justify or make it a good idea. Lots of undesirable things are possible. Doesn’t make them good ideas / actions.

The only point to growth at this point is creation of more consumption which makes a very small slice of the population richer and richer ... until we all choke to death on ourselves and our garbage lives.
Like it or not, California will continue to grow barring some major disaster.
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Old 10-13-2018, 12:14 AM
 
Location: Arcadia, CA
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Like it or not, California will continue to grow barring some major disaster.
Given the way wild fire is trending there is a real possibility for that to happen.
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Old 10-13-2018, 07:51 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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And how are we defining mentally ill?
Believe me, it's way more than 30%.
Not according to the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority.

2018 Greater Los Angeles Homeless Count Presentation: https://www.lahsa.org/documents?id=2...esentation.pdf
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Old 10-13-2018, 06:44 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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Not according to the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority.

2018 Greater Los Angeles Homeless Count Presentation: https://www.lahsa.org/documents?id=2...esentation.pdf
And as I stated, they have a ridiculous threshold for what's considered crazy. BTW, where do you live and how often do you see homeless people?
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Old 10-13-2018, 07:02 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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And as I stated, they have a ridiculous threshold for what's considered crazy. BTW, where do you live and how often do you see homeless people?
Well, if you’d be nice enough to inform “them” that their “threshold for what’s crazy” is “ridiculous” ... they’d hop to and change it for you, no doubt
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Old 10-13-2018, 07:24 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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And as I stated, they have a ridiculous threshold for what's considered crazy.
"Crazy"? No definition of that word in the DSM. I would assume that the LAHSA uses the same definition that the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders uses to define mental illness.

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BTW, where do you live and how often do you see homeless people?
Unlike you, I do not give out the specific city in which I reside. And I’ve already stated in many posts that I live in a suburb of Los Angeles.

I work with formerly homeless teenagers, and I've seen plenty of adult homeless in the decades that I've lived in one suburb or another of L.A. (Frankly, saw a lot more of them in the 1980s when I worked in DTLA.)

I wonder with those of you who demand to know where we live, and how much interaction we have with the homeless, what your point is.
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Old 10-13-2018, 08:27 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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We have the same discussion going in three different threads. Enough -- I feel like I'm in Groundhog Day.

The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread

💀 💀 DTLA Typhus Epidemic 💀 💀
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