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View Poll Results: How will you vote on Prop 6?
Yes 50 61.73%
No 31 38.27%
Voters: 81. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Old 10-23-2018, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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It's possible that Calif. Democrats shot themselves in the foot when they rammed through the gas and car tax. The federal Republican party sees voter uproar over these tax increases as a chance to get more Republican voters out to vote against these taxes and as more Republican voters also support federal house candidates.
So the federal Republicans are spending advertising money to help get out our state Republican vote.
Wouldn't it be something if Democrats gas tax costs them the federal house they want so much in order to have all kinds of obstruction and investigations against Trump and even impeach him.
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Old 10-23-2018, 12:50 PM
 
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It's possible that Calif. Democrats shot themselves in the foot when they rammed through the gas and car tax. The federal Republican party sees voter uproar over these tax increases as a chance to get more Republican voters out to vote against these taxes and as more Republican voters also support federal house candidates.
So the federal Republicans are spending advertising money to help get out our state Republican vote.
Wouldn't it be something if Democrats gas tax costs them the federal house they want so much in order to have all kinds of obstruction and investigations against Trump and even impeach him.
You mean the "Blue Wave" may just be a "Blue Ripple"?
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Old 10-23-2018, 01:37 PM
 
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Local police can't investigate and arrest people for federal civil immigration violations unless the agency has a 287g agreement and the Officer is trained in federal immigration law.
Of which they didn't any way. They notified ICE when they suspected of a person being illegal and let them investigate, people that are already under arrest. Now they can't because of the asinine sanctuary city laws. Only reason anyone defends this is if they have a certain agenda.
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Old 10-23-2018, 02:03 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Of which they didn't any way. They notified ICE when they suspected of a person being illegal and let them investigate, people that are already under arrest. Now they can't because of the asinine sanctuary city laws. Only reason anyone defends this is if they have a certain agenda.
You mean like police chiefs?

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The law-and-order president is angering a lot of the country's top law enforcement officers right now. The Justice Department has threatened to cut off federal grant funding to police departments that won't work more closely with immigration officers, and said it would bar some departments from participating in federal training programs. ...

... This narrative has angered a lot of police officials. Police chiefs who oversee America's largest law enforcement agencies unwaveringly assert that enforcing federal immigration laws is not their responsibility, and doing so would actually make their cities a lot more dangerous.

"The idea that there are police departments giving sanctuary to violent criminals is ridiculous," said Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo. "I don't know any police department that does that."

The crackdown on sanctuary cities has put police chiefs at the center of a political battle over immigration — a battle they want no part of. The vast majority of agencies (even in liberal San Francisco) already cooperate with Immigration and Customs Enforcement on criminal investigations, they said, but federal officials and some states want even more cooperation from them.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...nctuary-cities
Police chiefs across the country support sanctuary cities because they keep crime down
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Old 10-23-2018, 03:48 PM
 
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You mean police chiefs that are selected by and report to the mayor vs Sherrifs that are elected by the people and strongly oppose it? Strange phenomenon indeed.
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Old 10-23-2018, 04:58 PM
 
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The other Props are asking for your money. Prop 6 is the only one that doesn't want to take money from you. Wow, what an idea! I, for one, will take advantage of it by voting YES on Prop 6. When was the last time we got a tax break from the CA government? Never. They take and take and take. Prop 6 is our chance to get a small break from what they take from us. Vote YES on Prop 6.

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Old 10-23-2018, 08:56 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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You mean police chiefs that are selected by and report to the mayor vs Sherrifs that are elected by the people and strongly oppose it? Strange phenomenon indeed.
You said the only people who support sanctuary cities have an agenda. I replied “like police chiefs?” I didn’t say they didn’t have any agenda. Sheriffs have agendas too.

Point being: all people have agendas ... and those in law enforcement are not known for being a bunch of left-wing extremists nor snowflakes, right? So sheriffs play to the public they want to elect them. Chiefs play to their mayors who play to the base that elects them.

Why would sheriffs’ be considered anymore independent and intellectually rational?

Of course, we could also consider the positions of academics ... who you would attack as left wing. It’s what you do: view all things as left and right.
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Old 10-23-2018, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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this is on Prop. 6, the gas and car tax the Democrats rammed through for the rest of our lives, I don't know how it got changed to immigration
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Old 10-23-2018, 10:11 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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this is on Prop. 6, the gas and car tax the Democrats rammed through for the rest of our lives, I don't know how it got changed to immigration
One "tired" individual likes to deflect and derail topics related to anything pension related at the State level. Usually something about POTUS and hatred of said individual.
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Old 10-24-2018, 09:17 AM
 
Location: The Golden State, USA
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It's possible that Calif. Democrats shot themselves in the foot when they rammed through the gas and car tax. The federal Republican party sees voter uproar over these tax increases as a chance to get more Republican voters out to vote against these taxes and as more Republican voters also support federal house candidates.
So the federal Republicans are spending advertising money to help get out our state Republican vote.
Wouldn't it be something if Democrats gas tax costs them the federal house they want so much in order to have all kinds of obstruction and investigations against Trump and even impeach him.
In other words, it's all about gaining power putting party before country. Typical of tyrants AKA republicans. Where is their alternative plan for fixing the infrastructure after giving massive tax cuts to their wealthy donors and thus blowing up the deficit? The party of fiscal responsibility, BS. When you blow out a tire and destroy a rim on the interstate, thank a republican.
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