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View Poll Results: How will you vote on Prop 6?
Yes 50 61.73%
No 31 38.27%
Voters: 81. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-24-2018, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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Obama doubled the deficit. There is plenty of gas tax money to fix roads before the new increase, The Democrats spend it on other things.
Remember this gas and car tax increase is for the rest of your life.
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Old 10-24-2018, 09:44 AM
 
Location: near LA, Calif
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Is there a summary or breakdown of the road repair/maintenance projects along with their costs/budgets. That way we can easily see how much we are short.
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Old 10-24-2018, 09:46 AM
 
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You said the only people who support sanctuary cities have an agenda. I replied “like police chiefs?” I didn’t say they didn’t have any agenda. Sheriffs have agendas too.
I kind of agree with this.

Most elected law enforcement have to be "political" to the base of the area they will represent. It's sad to say, but no law enforcement is impartial. It's impossible.

Local PD usually acts upon the wishes of the Mayor, and the Mayor to the whims of the political base who put them into power.
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Old 10-24-2018, 12:26 PM
 
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Weird that the sheriff do as the people wish, not want sanctuary cities.

The police chief does as the mayor wants, want sanctuary cities.

The cities supporting sanctuary cities (or not opposing it) happen to have large number of illegals.

This is a strange phenomenon indeed.
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Old 10-24-2018, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The other Props are asking for your money. Prop 6 is the only one that doesn't want to take money from you. Wow, what an idea! I, for one, will take advantage of it by voting YES on Prop 6. When was the last time we got a tax break from the CA government? Never. They take and take and take. Prop 6 is our chance to get a small break from what they take from us. Vote YES on Prop 6.
Yup. Enough is never enough.
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Old 10-24-2018, 01:57 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Weird that the sheriff do as the people wish, not want sanctuary cities.

The police chief does as the mayor wants, want sanctuary cities.

The cities supporting sanctuary cities (or not opposing it) happen to have large number of illegals.

This is a strange phenomenon indeed.
lmfao ... um yeah. The cities that have - and have long had - lots of undocumented residents find it beneficial to have the best possible rapport between the undocumented and the cops. The undocumented were always there. Before the sanctuary status even became an issue.

Mayors also do what the majority of people wish. That’s how they get re elected too.
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Old 10-24-2018, 06:38 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Obama doubled the deficit. There is plenty of gas tax money to fix roads before the new increase, The Democrats spend it on other things.
Remember this gas and car tax increase is for the rest of your life.
To be fair he inherited the largest financial crisis since the great depression, there was no way the deficit wasn't going to go up, but look at where we were when he left office in 2017 compared to when he came in.
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Old 10-24-2018, 07:20 PM
 
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lmfao ... um yeah. The cities that have - and have long had - lots of undocumented residents find it beneficial to have the best possible rapport between the undocumented and the cops. The undocumented were always there. Before the sanctuary status even became an issue.

Mayors also do what the majority of people wish. That’s how they get re elected too.
What does that mean besides just being an observation. It's more beneficial that cops that engage with illegals be nicer to them so they can find criminals.
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"Hey ICE, we arrested this guy for XYZ, we also think he's an illegal, you should get down here and investigate"
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Old 10-24-2018, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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What does that mean besides just being an observation. It's more beneficial that cops that engage with illegals be nicer to them so they can find criminals.
."Hey ICE, we arrested this guy for XYZ, we also think he's an illegal, you should get down here and investigate"
Sorry but local cops cannot detain someone beyond the time it takes to process the reason for their initial stop, i.e. to write a traffic ticket in order to give ICE a chance to interview them. Don't believe me?

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"LLEAs cannot detain someone based on immigration status; state and local authority to make independent arrests for civil immigration violations is preempted by federal law. As the Supreme Court said in Arizona v. U.S., “Congress has put in place a system in which state officers may not make warrantless arrests of aliens based on possible removability except in specific, limited circumstances…If the police stop someone based on nothing more than possible removability, the usual predicate for an arrest is absent.” Moreover, Arizona and subsequent decisions have made clear that even a brief detention on the basis of immigration status following a lawful stop or arrest may be impermissible. " https://www.ilrc.org/sites/default/f...s_20150318.pdf
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Old 10-24-2018, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Weird that the sheriff do as the people wish, not want sanctuary cities.
The police chief does as the mayor wants, want sanctuary cities. The cities supporting sanctuary cities (or not opposing it) happen to have large number of illegals. This is a strange phenomenon indeed.
You are confused. Cops don't have Ouija boards, they need to talk to locals to identify and locate criminals. The best way to make that happen in immigrant neighborhoods is to let them know that the cops are not going after them for immigration violations. It really is that simple, but don't take my word for it, ask a local cop.
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