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View Poll Results: How will you vote on Prop 6?
Yes 50 61.73%
No 31 38.27%
Voters: 81. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-29-2018, 01:30 PM
 
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Nearly 59 percent of those funds go to highway maintenance, road repairs and public transit, according to the Department of Finance. Slightly more than 22 percent pays for the DMV, CHP and other state agencies in charge of regulating and enforcing traffic laws.
A small portion, just under 3 percent, helps the state pay the administrative costs of collecting, distributing and auditing the gas taxes and fees. An even smaller portion helps reduce the negative impacts of vehicle emissions on the environment, fund research and workforce development related to transportation, and pay for bicycle and pedestrian amenities.
Roughly 7.5 percent pays off transportation-related debt.
And, then there are two types of taxes or fees, representing about 7.5 percent of the total, that the state and the DMVt from collecmotorists that don’t fund transportation services directly.
A portion of those funds is redistributed to local law enforcement agencies and another portion is split between the state’s general fund and the departments of Food and Agriculture and Parks and Recreation.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/07/...y-actually-go/
Your link discusses gas taxes AND vehicle fees including tax on the sale of vehicles. I still don't see confirmation of the assertion that 30% of gas taxes are spent on things not related to road repair which is what I was responding to.
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Old 10-29-2018, 02:56 PM
 
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I didn't see anything in that article about 30% of gas tax being spent on things not related to road repair, were we reading the same article?
It wasn’t in this article but the Politifact article you posted about Rep. Melendez saying the gas tax funds would be diverted to non-road projects. There was a graphic listing every type of project with dollar amounts next to it.
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Old 10-29-2018, 03:02 PM
 
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Notice the source of the info I posted.


"according to the Department of Finance"
Clearly a much better source than some political blog.
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Old 10-29-2018, 03:13 PM
 
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It wasn’t in this article but the Politifact article you posted about Rep. Melendez saying the gas tax funds would be diverted to non-road projects. There was a graphic listing every type of project with dollar amounts next to it.
And politifact judged that claim to be mostly false

https://www.politifact.com/californi...nt-new-gas-ta/
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Old 10-29-2018, 05:43 PM
 
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Your link discusses gas taxes AND vehicle fees including tax on the sale of vehicles. I still don't see confirmation of the assertion that 30% of gas taxes are spent on things not related to road repair which is what I was responding to.
The discussion is prop 6 which includes gas taxes. It shows over 30% going elsewhere.


"Notice they never say how much money is going to road repair. That’s because about one-third of the tax is earmarked for everything from BART to buses." https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/10/...air-our-roads/

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Old 10-29-2018, 07:25 PM
 
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The discussion is prop 6 which includes gas taxes. It shows over 30% going elsewhere.


"Notice they never say how much money is going to road repair. That’s because about one-third of the tax is earmarked for everything from BART to buses." https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/10/...air-our-roads/
The claim was that over 30% of gas tax goes toward spending that is not related to road repair, that is incorrect, so now you want to claim that the argument was about all transportation related taxes and fees, not just gas tax? nuh uh that is not what the argument was so don't try to change it to fit your agenda.
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Old 10-29-2018, 08:22 PM
 
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The claim was that over 30% of gas tax goes toward spending that is not related to road repair, that is incorrect, so now you want to claim that the argument was about all transportation related taxes and fees, not just gas tax? nuh uh that is not what the argument was so don't try to change it to fit your agenda.
I have no agenda, but you do. I won't be paying the tax or license fee increase. I am just pointing out that a lot of the money will not go to road repairs and that is a fact.
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Old 10-29-2018, 08:31 PM
 
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And politifact judged that claim to be mostly false

https://www.politifact.com/californi...nt-new-gas-ta/
No, they judged the representative's wording that implied 30% would go to non-transportation projects like parks and rec, work programs, and agriculture programs to be false, but the 30% going to non-road repair is true.

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Brown’s budget calls for spending $818.7 million on those.

That’s about 29 percent of the overall $2.8 billion in new funding from the transportation package. It just about matches Melendez’s claim that 30 percent of the new revenue is being set aside for what appear to be non-road projects.
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Old 10-29-2018, 09:06 PM
 
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That scummy lib Xavier beccera tried to stop the repeal with the ballot wording- immoral thieves that see the tide is turning
The gas tax will be repealed this time or law suits will force it back on the ballot along with awful Xavier's recall
Prop. 6 leaders threaten recall campaign against California Atty. Gen. Xavier Becerra
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Old 10-29-2018, 09:19 PM
 
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Yes on 6 !
Keep pouring salt on the bloodsucking leeches till they wither up and fall off.
YES on 6 - repeal the tax- and NO on the bond props- spread the word now!!
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