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View Poll Results: How will you vote on Prop 6?
Yes 50 61.73%
No 31 38.27%
Voters: 81. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-31-2018, 08:51 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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Lol ... oh now you are interested in my opinion? I don’t believe it. Why?
Just wondering.
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Old 10-31-2018, 08:54 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Just wondering.
Phbbbbt ... I don’t think so.

But what the hell ... I don’t like it any more than I liked the gas tax. This one’s a real head scratching conundrum for me. I don’t trust either side as far as I can throw an elephant ... which, in spite of my awesome conditioning for a man my age, ain’t very far atall.

I’m stumped on this one. But enjoying the dust up it’s created.

I may have to leave it blank.

You?
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Old 10-31-2018, 09:21 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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Phbbbbt ... I don’t think so.

But what the hell ... I don’t like it any more than I liked the gas tax. This one’s a real head scratching conundrum for me. I don’t trust either side as far as I can throw an elephant ... which, in spite of my awesome conditioning for a man my age, ain’t very far atall.

I’m stumped on this one. But enjoying the dust up it’s created.

I may have to leave it blank.

You?
I'm voting yes. There is enough money to fix roads, overpasses, etc. if it wasn't diverted from our gas, vehicle registration, and other automotive related taxes. Furthermore, I do not like regressive taxes and often low income earners need to travel farther to work than mid or high income earners.
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Old 10-31-2018, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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So what's your secret for telling the future? Tarot cards? Crystal ball? Whoever put that proposition on the ballot didn't even put that it's the gas recall. It's worded wrong and very deceiving to a lot of people. Law suits are expensive. Of course they're not doing a law suit now but if prop 6 dosn't pass it's game on! They got Newsome out Becerra would be next.

Nobody knows what's happening next Tuesday but only _____ (fill in the blank) would vote for higher taxes and more govt controlling us with shady politicians that think they can raise taxes without even a vote. Please deliver me from this madness..
Oh, come now. The proposition clearly explains what it's about. Just because it doesn't include the word "repeal", doesn't mean anyone who takes the time to understand the proposition, won't see what it's about.

This argument is based solely on expecting voters to vote based only on advertising. The advertising uses the word "repeal." That's on them.

But, really, how insulting. To think that nobody who would vote for this measure either pro or con, wouldn't really understand what they were voting on, based only on the way the ballot description was worded - is just really wimpy.

If you can't sell your point of view more clearly than that - then that's on you.
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Old 11-01-2018, 07:20 AM
 
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Oh, come now. The proposition clearly explains what it's about. Just because it doesn't include the word "repeal", doesn't mean anyone who takes the time to understand the proposition, won't see what it's about.

This argument is based solely on expecting voters to vote based only on advertising. The advertising uses the word "repeal." That's on them.

But, really, how insulting. To think that nobody who would vote for this measure either pro or con, wouldn't really understand what they were voting on, based only on the way the ballot description was worded - is just really wimpy.

If you can't sell your point of view more clearly than that - then that's on you.
Most vote based on party an ideology with no conception of any issue.
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Old 11-01-2018, 12:07 PM
 
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Most vote based on party an ideology with no conception of any issue.
In addition, there are those who will not take the time to read things carefully (or simply have lower IQs). Anyone that thinks the wording on this Proposition was not done to purposely confuse people is naive at best. It should be as simple as "Do you think the gas tax should be repealed"...yes/no. The voting guide has a section for pro and con arguments (and that's where the commentary should be regarding road repair and transportation funding). Let's at least be real here.
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Old 11-01-2018, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Ocean View, Hawaii
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Voting YES; the current gas tax and higher vehicle registrations aren't improving the infrastructure, its just another way to put money into the politicians hands. The roads (at least where I live) are just as bad as they always have been. I lived in Oregon for a short time - I can't believe how good the roads are there. Gas is cheaper and there isn't any sales tax. So how are they making due? They are doing something right while California is diverting money to something else. I'd rather keep that money in my pocket.
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Old 11-01-2018, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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Voting YES; the current gas tax and higher vehicle registrations aren't improving the infrastructure, its just another way to put money into the politicians hands. The roads (at least where I live) are just as bad as they always have been. I lived in Oregon for a short time - I can't believe how good the roads are there. Gas is cheaper and there isn't any sales tax. So how are they making due? They are doing something right while California is diverting money to something else. I'd rather keep that money in my pocket.
It is the same for Arizona. They have better roads and gas costs $1.00 less. They do have income tax but it is much lower than California.
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Old 11-01-2018, 01:16 PM
 
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I am voting Yes. I am tired of Sacramento politicians taking our money. I also object to the higher registration fees. People who don't have a car will likely push it into the No category. I know the price is not much per fill up, but I am not convinced all the money will go to road repairs, for long.

I will be voting No on most bond measures, I am still undecided on the county wide ones.

One town wide ballot measure is to extend an increase in sales tax to fund fire , police & street maintenance, I will be voting yes on that. At least the money will be kept in town, & everyone will have to pay, & benefit.




The state should go after all the people that live here and drive cars with out of state plates before thinking of raising car registration fees
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Old 11-01-2018, 02:04 PM
 
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The state should go after all the people that live here and drive cars with out of state plates before thinking of raising car registration fees
They should go after politicians and make them accountable. How were the original funds for roads and infrastructure spent? How do we have a new tax and a surplus budget?
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