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View Poll Results: How will you vote on Prop 6?
Yes 50 61.73%
No 31 38.27%
Voters: 81. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-07-2018, 10:01 AM
 
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Though with 40 million taxpayers and many many more tourists who pay an arm and a leg to stay, shop, and play here, and so much tax revenues from all those items mentioned that we sell and export we should have raked in much much more tax revenue than all those states too. Where did all that revenue go.
While we appear to have a "surplus" now, which oftentimes seems artificial, though by our track record any little hiccup, would mean a astronomical deficit overnight that would dwarf any other state in the union or make other state's deficit appear microscopic.
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Old 11-07-2018, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Though with 40 million taxpayers and many many more tourists who pay an arm and a leg to stay, shop, and play here, and so much tax revenues from all those items mentioned that we sell and export we should have raked in much much more tax revenue than all those states too. Where did all that revenue go.
While we appear to have a "surplus" now, which oftentimes seems artificial, though by our track record any little hiccup, would mean a astronomical deficit overnight that would dwarf any other state in the union or make other state's deficit appear microscopic.
No need to wonder about these things, the state budget is publicly available and details revenue and spending:
California Budget
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Old 11-07-2018, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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Brian Rice, President of the California Professional Firefighters, says

“Prop 6 will make road conditions worse and jeopardize the safety of California drivers. Furthermore, in an emergency, every minute counts -- so safe and well-maintained roads help ensure that first responders can arrive at the scene quickly and save lives. "

If Prop 6 passes, it could delay response times and makes our roads less safe.

Vote NO on 6.
Total BS but as usual the greedy state, unions, govt employees got what they wanted.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:18 PM
 
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Total BS but as usual the greedy state, unions, govt employees got what they wanted.
Since 55.1% of voters voted no, I really doubt if it was only unions and government employees who wanted to kill this measure, it might be that a lot of people value having decent infrastructure.
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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Since 55.1% of voters voted no, I really doubt if it was only unions and government employees who wanted to kill this measure, it might be that a lot of people value having decent infrastructure.
The state already had the money to fix roads. Keep in mind they take in billions annually on the high gas tax as it is. LOTS of fools in ca.
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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LOTS of people don't know how to read or are just plain ignorant. Now we will be "allowing the state legislature to continue to impose, increase, or extend fuel taxes or vehicle fees through a 2/3 vote of each chamber and without voter approval". Also vehicle fees will increase over the years based on inflation. I am for safe roads but I am definitely NOT for taxation without representation. WAY TO GO CALIFORNIA.
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:41 PM
 
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Well get to re paving the roads and creating additional routes. money is probably already being diverted to the Choo Choo train to nowhere
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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Well get to re paving the roads and creating additional routes. money is probably already being diverted to the Choo Choo train to nowhere
Newsome said he wont push that issue like brown did. We shall see.
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:44 PM
 
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LOTS of people don't know how to read or are just plain ignorant. Now we will be "allowing the state legislature to continue to impose, increase, or extend fuel taxes or vehicle fees through a 2/3 vote of each chamber and without voter approval". Also vehicle fees will increase over the years based on inflation. I am for safe roads but I am definitely NOT for taxation without representation. WAY TO GO CALIFORNIA.
As much as it will irritate me to pay this extra tax I will be able to afford it. The poor who cant afford it and likely voted for it will get what they asked for. Next they will demand another entitlement to have subsidized vehicle registration and ebt cards for gas.
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Old 11-07-2018, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The state already had the money to fix roads. Keep in mind they take in billions annually on the high gas tax as it is. LOTS of fools in ca.
It was the lies and scare tactics of those commercials with public servants like firefighters and highway patrol--who most people trust---saying a yes vote would eliminate $51 billion to fix roads and would hamper emergency responders. They spoke as if the money is definitely going to road repair and would now be taken away. I doubt most voters know it can diverted to the general fund or that "transportation costs" can refer to bike lanes and the metro. Like taxing glasses and contact lens wearers to pay for other people's Lasik.
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