How are you voting on Prop 10 regarding rent control? (Bell: school, community college)

[amokk]

Originally Posted by Usrname

Agreed.
And if there's natural disaster they ("landlords") all will be screaming for more government, to bail their asses out.

Landlords are truly evil, greedy subhuman scum, the worst kind of people in this country. Even the word sounds vile. My close family member is a landlord who owns multiple rental houses, this person had turned from normal to be the greedy, lying, inhuman *** [I have no good words to insert here], as they kept acquiring real estate and renting it out. They schemed and wringed quite a bit of money (millions) out of CA real estate boom (while letting their own mother die alone and in poverty, which is typical vile, immoral behavior for "landlord" types, who're creatures who'd sell anyone including their own mother for dimes, without a problem, if they sniff a profit, the lowest of the low). Every one of my numerous interactions with this type of "people" had confirmed these observations. They just want to squeeze a buck out of other people's misery, without care for others' comfort or safety (or even laws).

60% against rent control....that's fine. Only if you have 20% homeless and they start rioting and burning houses you won't be able to control them or help yourself. Have fun.

Life must be very hard for you if you can't understand the basics of how an exchange of services works.

[jm1982]

https://therealdeal.com/la/2018/11/1...pparent-arson/

[NewbieHere]

Originally Posted by Usrname

Agreed.
And if there's natural disaster they ("landlords") all will be screaming for more government, to bail their asses out.

Landlords are truly evil, greedy subhuman scum, the worst kind of people in this country. Even the word sounds vile. My close family member is a landlord who owns multiple rental houses, this person had turned from normal to be the greedy, lying, inhuman *** [I have no good words to insert here], as they kept acquiring real estate and renting it out. They schemed and wringed quite a bit of money (millions) out of CA real estate boom (while letting their own mother die alone and in poverty, which is typical vile, immoral behavior for "landlord" types, who're creatures who'd sell anyone including their own mother for dimes, without a problem, if they sniff a profit, the lowest of the low). Every one of my numerous interactions with this type of "people" had confirmed these observations. They just want to squeeze a buck out of other people's misery, without care for others' comfort or safety (or even laws).

60% against rent control....that's fine. Only if you have 20% homeless and they start rioting and burning houses you won't be able to control them or help yourself. Have fun.

Do you want to move to Venezuela ?

[Electrician4you]

Originally Posted by Usrname

Agreed.
And if there's natural disaster they ("landlords") all will be screaming for more government, to bail their asses out.

Landlords are truly evil, greedy subhuman scum, the worst kind of people in this country. Even the word sounds vile. My close family member is a landlord who owns multiple rental houses, this person had turned from normal to be the greedy, lying, inhuman *** [I have no good words to insert here], as they kept acquiring real estate and renting it out. They schemed and wringed quite a bit of money (millions) out of CA real estate boom (while letting their own mother die alone and in poverty, which is typical vile, immoral behavior for "landlord" types, who're creatures who'd sell anyone including their own mother for dimes, without a problem, if they sniff a profit, the lowest of the low). Every one of my numerous interactions with this type of "people" had confirmed these observations. They just want to squeeze a buck out of other people's misery, without care for others' comfort or safety (or even laws).

60% against rent control....that's fine. Only if you have 20% homeless and they start rioting and burning houses you won't be able to control them or help yourself. Have fun.

Oh please. Can you be more dramatic? The government isn’t going to bail me out. Where do people come up with this crap? If I fail it’s gonna be because i made wrong poor or bad decisions. And there is no government to bail me out.

So because some “close to you relative is a greedy lying inhuman *** “ and some landlords are possibly like that person you refer to, then of course all land lords must be like that. All blacks steal, all whites are racist, Asians are good at math,

Really? All landlords let their family members die destitute. I’m glad to know that. I guess I better cancel that check I sent to my niece to cover her bills and to live on for this month as her husband just walked away from the marriage. I wouldn’t want to shatter the illusion you created for yourself.

With your attitude the reason for these interactions is because of YOU not the LL. They simply want nothing to do with you. I had your type of LL hater applicants. There was usually so much wrong with their background it was easy to decline renting to them. In fact I decline to rent to anyone who can’t pass the minimum standards I set. Yah I’m sure you wouldn’t like them.

Nobody is gonna start burning houses because they are homeless. Jesus Christ.

[NewbieHere]

Sound like a raving lunatic.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by NewbieHere

Sound like a raving lunatic.

Who? Usrname, or Electrician? Assuming you mean Usrname.

[Texas Minded]

Originally Posted by oldtrader

Speaking as someone that spent decades as an investment real estate broker, if that law passes, you think now is a tough rental market, just wait to see what happens if it passes.

What will happen.

1...Landlords will stop maintaining their property (They won't have the money to do so.) The properties will soon get to the point they will not be able to be rented.

2...No new apartments and other rentals will be built.

3...Rental houses, will be sold and become owner occupied houses.

4...Landlords will kick out apartment tenants, and convert them to condos, etc.

5...Some landlords will simply evict their tenants and let the building remain vacant.

6...Number of properties lost due to fires, and other occurrences will take place.

When you make it unprofitable to rent a property at a profit, landlords will stop supplying the rental properties needed in California.

Within the first year, more and more people will become homeless due to those 6 things occurring. And it will get worse as time goes on.

Placing rent control on rental owners, is the equivalent of making a law that all salaries will be reduced by 25% and how that will effect the general population in the state.

If people pass this law, they should first consider the consequences of such a law.

It would be the equivalent of saying all engineers, will have their salaries cut 10% and frozen. And doing so in industry after industry. This makes as much sense, as setting rent control standards that make it unprofitable to own rental properties. Why should one group suffer, and not have other laws so that all the people in the state have to suffer in an equivalent manner.

I am not in California any more (lived in the Bay Area for 18 years) but have family still there.

Spot on.

I am glad it did not pass. Bad solution.

[NewbieHere]

I’m glad it didn’t pass but it’s usually the uneducated mass who wants free everything that voted for it.

[Texas Minded]

Originally Posted by NewbieHere

I’m glad it didn’t pass but it’s usually the uneducated mass who wants free everything that voted for it.

Exactly.

As another poster earlier in this thread said (in so many words), is that anti free market propositions and bills like this will continue to be pushed. The socialist crowd is an extremely persistent bunch.

Funny thing is, if they ever succeed in getting enough narrow sighted people to vote for it and get the level of government control of rents in California they think they want... they will quickly discover that owners / investors will take their money and leave the state.

Then what?

I am sure someone here will answer me with something along the lines of "Good! We don't want greedy real estate investors / owners here in California". This will prove my point around the narrow sighted comment I made above.

[NoMoreSnowForMe]

Originally Posted by Texas Minded

Exactly.

As another poster earlier in this thread said (in so many words), is that anti free market propositions and bills like this will continue to be pushed. The socialist crowd is an extremely persistent bunch.

Funny thing is, if they ever succeed in getting enough narrow sighted people to vote for it and get the level of government control of rents in California they think they want... they will quickly discover that owners / investors will take their money and leave the state.

Then what?

I am sure someone here will answer me with something along the lines of "Good! We don't want greedy real estate investors / owners here in California". This will prove my point around the narrow sighted comment I made above.

Well, my answer is that we need more government housing. Not private businesses controlled by government restrictions on their profits.

I'm really against all of this privatization of government services. When there is a profit involved, service suffers, in my opinion.

We need to take the profit out of low-income housing, and start transforming all of the vacant state properties into housing that is managed by the government. And yes, I'm okay with higher taxes to provide that. But, I really believe if we did this, these properties could easily be self-sustaining.