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Old 11-22-2018, 01:16 PM
 
Location: N.Sierra Nevadas (California)
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We will be staying in the region, I love it here, & it is my home. No place is Nature proof. For now we will be renting in Willows, & take our time to decide where to settle down. This sounds strange, but in some ways it is a relief to have a total loss, we do not have to decide if we want to, or can rebuild, we get our insurance money & be done with it. I will miss the lifestyle & groups I belonged to there. For those moving further afield, I wish you well.
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Old 11-22-2018, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, WA
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2sleepy: Thanks for the advice.

Our home is one of the hundreds of survivors.
The neighbor's house to the left and to the right is nothing more than ashes and twisted, melted metal.
The neighbor's house across from us is standing. We talked to the owner and she said she never want to step into Paradise again. Her daughter and grand daughter survived by a miracle; they were in different cars. One man in the daughter's car jumped out thinking he'd be better off and the man burned to death while the occupants of the car were inching forward.
I'd like to sell our house for what our cost was with all the upgrades, exactly $ 295 K, plus the realtor commission.
I think we could get it, there is a tremendous demand for housing in the entire North State after the devastating fires we had this year. I am not taking advantage of anyone, but I'd like to get back what we spent and move away, as far and as fast as we can.
mgforshort, I was just wondering what you would do after discovering your home actually survived. At first I thought no one would want to buy there with so little of the town left including infrastructure services. However, as you mention, there are some would like to stay. So in those cases homes actually left standing AND for sale are probably few and far between thus will probably be in greater demand.

Derek
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Old 11-22-2018, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Paradise CA, that place on fire
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MtnSurfer, Thank You.

Every night the Butte County sheriff gives us the exact number of the dead, the missing, the damaged and destroyed structures, but they don't say how many homes survived without a scratch. At least I can't find any report on that.
There must be several hundred survivors. I hope the high number of residents waiting to return puts a pressure on the authorities to clean the roads and restore gas and electrical service, also the water.
That would relieve demand for shelter and help the desperados sleeping in cars and tents on the freezing ground.
I hate to say it, but many of us here think the government is on a power-trip to satisfy their own existence.
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Old 11-22-2018, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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Tonight's update:

Size: 153,336 acres
Containment: 95%
Expected Full Containment: 11/30/18
Civilian Injuries: 0
Firefighter Injuries: 3
Civilian Fatalities: 84
Firefighter Fatalities: 0
Structures Threatened: 0
Single Residences Destroyed: 13,631
Single Residences Damaged: 472
Multiple Residences Destroyed: 275
Commercial Destroyed: 514
Commercial Damaged: 105
Other Minor Structures Destroyed: 4,232

CURRENT SITUATION Situation Summary: All containment lines continued to hold throughout the day with the rain assisting in extinguishing hot spots and smoldering fire. Firefighters continue tactical patrols while responding to calls for service in and around the fire area. Fire suppression repair personnel continue to assess areas for rehabilitation and conduct repair where possible. Search and Rescue Crews, US&R Teams, and engine companies continue working to methodically search the fire area for missing victims.

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Newer photos on the Structure Status map show some work is already being done -- hazardous trees marked, broken windows boarded over and marked, etc.
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Old 11-23-2018, 04:03 AM
 
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Tonight's update:

Size: 153,336 acres
Containment: 95%
Expected Full Containment: 11/30/18
Civilian Injuries: 0
Firefighter Injuries: 3
Civilian Fatalities: 84
Firefighter Fatalities: 0
Structures Threatened: 0
Single Residences Destroyed: 13,631
Single Residences Damaged: 472
Multiple Residences Destroyed: 275
Commercial Destroyed: 514
Commercial Damaged: 105
Other Minor Structures Destroyed: 4,232

CURRENT SITUATION Situation Summary: All containment lines continued to hold throughout the day with the rain assisting in extinguishing hot spots and smoldering fire. Firefighters continue tactical patrols while responding to calls for service in and around the fire area. Fire suppression repair personnel continue to assess areas for rehabilitation and conduct repair where possible. Search and Rescue Crews, US&R Teams, and engine companies continue working to methodically search the fire area for missing victims.

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Newer photos on the Structure Status map show some work is already being done -- hazardous trees marked, broken windows boarded over and marked, etc.
^^^^^ I also just heard on the 4-5 am local TV news here in Houston that the number missing is now down to 560
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Old 11-23-2018, 07:29 AM
 
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The rain is a blessing or a curse, depending on your perspective.
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Old 11-23-2018, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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^^^^^ I also just heard on the 4-5 am local TV news here in Houston that the number missing is now down to 560
The number has been dropping, which is good news. Also note that the casualty number has been going up by only about one per day. They've been fine-toothing the ruins (targeting known residences of the missing), so this indicates they're not finding a lot of remains... hopefully that means there are none to find, but with a fire this intense, it's hard to be sure.


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The rain is a blessing or a curse, depending on your perspective.
Heavy rain is predicted for the rest of today, then sunshine over the weekend, then spotty rain next week. Better mudslides than the fire getting re-energized by the winds that are sure to follow; there are probably missed hot spots that thanks to the rain, have no chance to restart as real fires.

ETA: nothing new in this morning's Incident Report.

Last edited by Reziac; 11-23-2018 at 08:41 AM..
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Old 11-23-2018, 08:51 AM
 
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The rain is a blessing or a curse, depending on your perspective.
Agreed. My first thought of hearing about impending rain was, Great! They need it! and then I remembered this might hurt recovery efforts.
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Old 11-23-2018, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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Tonight's Incident Report:
Stats unchanged

STATUS: All containment lines continue to hold around the fire. The 5% of the fire that remains uncontained is located in steep and rugged terrain where it is unsafe for firefighters to access due to the heavy rains. There is indirect control line in that area and firefighters are monitoring the situation. Once safe to do so, crews will assess this area and determine if direct line is necessary. Fire suppression repair personnel continue to assess areas for rehabilitation and conduct repair where possible. Search and Rescue Crews, US&R Teams, and engine companies continue working to assist the Butte County Sheriff’s Office with search efforts.
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Old 11-25-2018, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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This morning's incident report: FIRE IS 100% CONTAINED.

Size: 153,336 acres
Containment: 100%
Expected Full Containment: 11/25/18
Civilian Injuries: 0
Firefighter Injuries: 3
Civilian Fatalities: 85
Firefighter Fatalities: 0
Structures Threatened: 0
Single Residences Destroyed: 13,696
Single Residences Damaged: 462
Multiple Residences Destroyed: 276
Commercial Destroyed: 528
Commercial Damaged: 102
Other Minor Structures Destroyed: 4,293

CURRENT SITUATION Situation Summary: The fireline that remained uncontained has now been contained, bringing containment to 100%. Fire suppression repair personnel continue conduct rehab where possible. Search and Rescue Crews, US&R Teams, and engine companies continue with search efforts.

Evacuation Center:
OPEN: Glenn County Fairgrounds (221 E Yolo St, Orland, CA 95963)
OPEN: Butte County Fairgrounds (199 E Hazel St, Gridley, CA 95948)
OPEN: Neighborhood Church (2801 Notre Dame Blvd, Chico, CA 95928)
THIS SHELTER IS FULL: Yuba-Sutter Fairground (442 Franklin Ave, Yuba City, CA 95991)
THIS SHELTER IS FULL: Bidwell Jr. High school (2376 North Ave, Chico CA 95926)
THIS SHELTER IS FULL: Oroville Nazarene Church (2238 Monte Vista Ave, Oroville, CA 95966)

For the most recent up to date Evacuation Locations and Status go to:
https://buttecountyrecovers.org/

Missing Person Call Center Phone Numbers:
530.538.6570
530.538.7544
530.538.7671

Finding Pets and Pet Rescue:
530.895.0000
(animals are being held at the Yuba and Butte fairgrounds and at the Chico airport)

Public Information Line: (530) 538-7826
Media Information Line: (530) 487-4788
Email Updates (sign-up):https://tinyurl.com/2018campfire
Incident Website: www.fire.ca.gov/current_incidents
Inciweb: https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/6250/

All sorts of Official Contact info:
http://www.buttecounty.net/sheriffcoroner

Current Missings Persons list:
http://www.buttecounty.net/Portals/2...-24-204254-967

Maps including aerial drone images (only works properly in Chrome)
https://buttecountyrecovers.org/Maps
or
https://buttecountygis.maps.arcgis.c...ed910c640a30b3

Last edited by Reziac; 11-25-2018 at 10:25 AM.. Reason: more info fell from the sky
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