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Old 12-23-2006, 04:24 PM
 
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Why this impression Illegals are so cheap? Last I checked, Aug. 2006, according to the Calabasas newspaper(The Acorn) the average illegal dayworker in Calabasas, Agoura, Thousand Oaks made $15/hour. That isn't that low. I know plenty of unemployed Americans and students would enjoy that compensation. Besides, there's no taxes withdrawn- so it's more hefty than it seems.
I understand that these dayworkers unionized. So, if you want your dayworkers cheaper, you are going to have to go find those willing to break the union lines.

 
Old 12-23-2006, 04:49 PM
 
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I THINK it means that people coming into a country illegally to find work is not as bad as people entering illegally into a land and stealing it. Refers to how the US acquired it`s SouthWestern states.

I don't know, it kinda sounds like stealing my brothers car as payback for him breaking my toys when we were little. They both sound pretty lame to me. Since when did 2 wrongs make a right especially over something 150 yrs ago. But correct me if I'm wrong, weren't there more Native Americans than Mexican's in what is now US territories?

Its really beyond the topic but ultimately if you're unhappy with your own country, why not demand your country to be rebuilt instead of say, going into another country and making like the country you left? Is this happening anywhere but here?
 
Old 12-23-2006, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Beautiful California
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Its really beyond the topic but ultimately if you're unhappy with your own country, why not demand your country to be rebuilt instead of say, going into another country and making like the country you left? Is this happening anywhere but here?
Hello snb3!

Its happening all over Europe due to immigration (legal and illegal) from middle eastern countries. France comes to mind as they are having various problems with immigrants (legal and illegal) who either do not want to assimilate or who want to assimilate but encounter rejection.

~Cali-girl
 
Old 12-24-2006, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Beautiful California
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Read the article carefully, you'll see it's not my allegation.

"On Wednesday, Chertoff played down the reports of border incursions by the Mexican military. He suggested many of the incursions could have been mistakes, blaming bad navigation by military personnel or attributing the incursions to criminals dressed in military garb."

FYI that's Micheal Chertoff, Secy of the Dept of Homeland Security
Hello Sassberto!

Yes, that is the Official Version.

~Cali-girl
 
Old 12-24-2006, 07:39 PM
 
Location: CA Coast
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There are paranoids in this country. Have you driven in Mexico lately,, military checkpoints every 100K inspecting all vehicles,, Paid for by the USA!!, even though they would be considered unconstitutional in America, we inflict it on the Mexican citizens.
 
Old 02-02-2007, 04:26 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
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100 years ago, people made the same complaints about the Chinese (who were actually banned from immigrating for a while), Irish, Jews, and Italians.

How have WE benefitted from illegals? How have we benefitted by NOT doing something about this problem?

According to this story (broken link), Mexicans added over $17 billion (with a B!) to the Texas economy in the last fiscal year.

I don't like our Beautiful National Parks and Forests being used as Drug Labs

Americans are the ones using national parks as drug labs, not Mexicans.
I think there's huge differences between what's happening now vs italians, jews, russians, chinese.

-Proximity to Mexico. I think that makes full assimilation nearly impossible; their culture/identity is still tied to mexico. You've also got people that think it's really Mexico's land, Aztlan, and all of that.

-Blatant disregard for the rules. It's night and day.

If you sneak into a foreign country in the middle of the night, jump over a fence, trek through hundreds of miles of desert, and evade border security....you don't deserve jack!!

Could I sneak into Mexico and do the same thing? Could I sneak into any other country in the world do that? Of course not.

Illegal immigrants get alot of hatred because they bring it on themselves!

I get so tired of reading on illegal immigrant threads about the evil white man, oh...the racist white man, he just doesn't like anyone of color.

It's interesting that California has millions of immigrants, but you don't see any hatred towards Iranians, or Greeks, or Vietnamese or Chinese, Indian. There alot of people of color here in Southern California...but I don't see any movements to tear down Koreatown or kick out persian jews.

It has nothing to do with skin color. I have friends here from Brazil, Iran, Latvia, China...but they play by the rules and add to society. Illegals bring it on themselves..they're their own worst enemy.

-Bankrupting the state.

-Bringing diseases into the country that weren't here before.

-The schools are in shambles. Test scores, graduation rates...they're an embarrassment.

-Gangbanger/ghetto culture.

-Demanding "rights" they're never entitled to. I'm not aware of any Chinese, Jew, Italian marches in the early 1900's for health care, education, driver licenses that cost the states billions of dollars.

The idea of marching in a foreign country for "rights" is just insanity.

In the early 20th century, I picture immigrants landing at the Statue of Liberty, with a sense of hope, gratitude, American ideals.

Can't say the same today.
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