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Old 11-30-2018, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Here's a good article about what happened to the Republican party in California
Yep. McCarthy used this to help him become leader. Well he got his wish, except that he's now minority leader of a much smaller caucus, and with fewer colleagues of his from California (7 including himself).

 
Old 11-30-2018, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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Originally Posted by kttam186290 View Post
Please, in all honesty, ask yourself who in California does the Republican Party appeal to?

The small business owner? ...OK, but only if he/she is not an immigrant, gay, or pro-choice.

Big business? ...Not with the level of workplace education and diversity you'll have in California.

The "elite" Republicans in Atherton, Hillsborough, Woodside and Los Altos (in Nor Cal) or Rancho Bernardo, Bradbury, Westlake Village and Rancho Palos Verde (in So Cal) are not numerous enough to actually swing an election.

So, the California GOP caters to the very narrow base of White/native-born Hispanic-American, blue collar, exurban, conservative, military-oriented, anti-choice, anti-gay voter. Basically, the "Archie Bunkers" of California who hate the state with a passion and vote with a grudge.

That's not a winning formula!
In all honesty, the Republican Party appeals to the middle class. It is currently the party of the middle class. It appeals to hard working men and women of all Nationalities. It appeals to the poor that want to become part of the middle class. The Republican party appeals to people that want to keep Government out of their personal business. The Republican Party appeals to the family. The Republican Party appeals to those that believe in the Constitution of the United States. The Republican Party appeals to people of Faith.

The Small business owner? Yes, it appeals to many small business owners, immigrant or natural born. My Gay brother is a Republican as are many of his friends. Lots of Pro Choice. The choice that they make is life though. I mean it is a choice right?

Big Business? Isn't that a big part of the Republican party?

California Republicans love the State. Many like me are staying and fighting for this Great State. A lot of people have left the State. They have given up on it, written it off. I can't do that. I love this state too much to see the Liberal Socialist Democrats continue to destroy California.

When the many Republicans and Independents realize that the Democrats win elections with the narrowest of margins and many times win with illegal voting practices, you will see this State move away from the Left.
 
Old 11-30-2018, 07:54 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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In all honesty, the Republican Party appeals to the middle class.

Lots of Pro Choice. The choice that they make is life though. I mean it is a choice right?
No, pro-choice means that reproductive rights belong to the person, not the government dictating what that person is allowed to do with her body.
 
Old 11-30-2018, 08:10 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Originally Posted by SOON2BNSURPRISE View Post
In all honesty, the Republican Party appeals to the middle class. It is currently the party of the middle class. It appeals to hard working men and women of all Nationalities. It appeals to the poor that want to become part of the middle class. The Republican party appeals to people that want to keep Government out of their personal business. The Republican Party appeals to the family. The Republican Party appeals to those that believe in the Constitution of the United States. The Republican Party appeals to people of Faith.

The Small business owner? Yes, it appeals to many small business owners, immigrant or natural born. My Gay brother is a Republican as are many of his friends. Lots of Pro Choice. The choice that they make is life though. I mean it is a choice right?

Big Business? Isn't that a big part of the Republican party?

California Republicans love the State. Many like me are staying and fighting for this Great State. A lot of people have left the State. They have given up on it, written it off. I can't do that. I love this state too much to see the Liberal Socialist Democrats continue to destroy California.

When the many Republicans and Independents realize that the Democrats win elections with the narrowest of margins and many times win with illegal voting practices, you will see this State move away from the Left.
Oh barf.

Never occurs to you that the majority of Californians have voted as we have because we don’t want to see the Party of Trump destroy our state.

The GOP is dead. Trump killed it. Californians didn’t.

Trump has no allegiances ... not to conservative ideology, not to common sense, not to any sort of human decency, not to truth, nor honesty or integrity.

He’s playing to the only base that will be fooled by his demagoguery. Fearful. Knee-jerk suckers. Read Eric Hoffer’s “The True Believer”, from back in the early 1950’s.

This isn’t a question of ideology. It’s psychology.
 
Old 11-30-2018, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Originally Posted by SOON2BNSURPRISE View Post
In all honesty, the Republican Party appeals to the middle class. It is currently the party of the middle class. It appeals to hard working men and women of all Nationalities. It appeals to the poor that want to become part of the middle class. The Republican party appeals to people that want to keep Government out of their personal business. The Republican Party appeals to the family. The Republican Party appeals to those that believe in the Constitution of the United States. The Republican Party appeals to people of Faith.

The Small business owner? Yes, it appeals to many small business owners, immigrant or natural born. My Gay brother is a Republican as are many of his friends. Lots of Pro Choice. The choice that they make is life though. I mean it is a choice right?

Big Business? Isn't that a big part of the Republican party?

California Republicans love the State. Many like me are staying and fighting for this Great State. A lot of people have left the State. They have given up on it, written it off. I can't do that. I love this state too much to see the Liberal Socialist Democrats continue to destroy California.

When the many Republicans and Independents realize that the Democrats win elections with the narrowest of margins and many times win with illegal voting practices, you will see this State move away from the Left.
No, the Republican party does not appeal to the middle class or to 'hard working men and women of all nationalities'. If it did, then why couldn't Republicans hold the house races in very middle class places like Fresno?
 
Old 11-30-2018, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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Originally Posted by Tulemutt View Post
But who would listen to a highschool dropout retired printer, eh?
Me. I listen.
 
Old 11-30-2018, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Rust'n in Tustin
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But who would listen to a highschool dropout retired printer, eh?
High school drop out? Your replies are so well written and cogent I was guessing, captain of industry.
 
Old 11-30-2018, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Rust'n in Tustin
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Originally Posted by semispherical View Post
This :

https://www-washingtonpost-com.cdn.a...-lot-about-our

(sorry -- some kind of award for longest URL in the world)

is a fascinating experiment about how fear shapes our political views, particularly w.r.t. immigrants. Mr. _racer, with your repeated queries about whether we lock our doors (and just for the record, my answer is "sometimes") do you see yourself in this narrative at all?
Why would you want need to lock your front door at all? Are you saying you'd like to be in control of who comes in your house?

Racist?
 
Old 11-30-2018, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Originally Posted by expatCA View Post
Right what a financially wise move the HSR was.
Jerry Brown did not invent the idea of a high-speed rail system to connect Northern and Southern California.

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It was voted on by the state Legislature and ratified by voters years before he returned to the governor’s office in 2011. But for the last eight years, as cost estimates have skyrocketed and federal and private sector funding for the project has evaporated, Brown has become high-speed rail’s most persistent defender.
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics...219943105.html
 
Old 12-01-2018, 07:17 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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Originally Posted by ysr_racer View Post
High school drop out? Your replies are so well written and cogent I was guessing, captain of industry.
... old, white, retired enlisted military (Vietnam vet), retired blue-collar printer, mid-west born and raised high-school drop out, state’s rights advocate, anti-immigration ... pretty much the perfect Trump voter, eh?

Self-education results in curious outcomes, if undertaken with open eyes, open mind, and no ideological biases.

Edit afterthought: proofreading is a wonderful habit. Note above I had a second career as a printer ... can’t tell you how many times I saved clients money by reading what they gave me to print ... finding errors, from spelling to copy text that failed to make the point they intended ... calling them up and fixing before full press run. I was often hired to re-write, re-typeset, fix entire products. They loved my habits.

Last edited by Tulemutt; 12-01-2018 at 07:42 AM..
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