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Old 01-28-2019, 05:11 PM
 
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Bla bla blah, a misdemeanor is a crime is it not? So what you wrote before was false. So its not a felony to steal a case of beer? Okay but shoplifters are still being arrested, put in jail and fined... unless its a value over 950$. Hmm this is just like almost every other state in the union, the horror!
You did not read it all.


Residents who are experiencing an uptick in so-called low-level crimes in their neighborhoods are baffled by studies indicating otherwise. For example, a December 2017 Center on Criminal and Juvenile Justice report shows property crimes down by an average of 18.1 percent across the state. Those numbers are false, says Michael Rushford, president of the Sacramento-based Criminal Justice Legal Foundation, a nonprofit public-interest law organization: “More, not fewer, of these crimes are being committed, but people aren’t reporting them. In most cases they have to do it online, and they end up not doing it. They don’t believe anything will happen, so don’t see the point. And they’re right.”
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Old 01-28-2019, 05:45 PM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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Maybe those conservatives you're listening to are lying to you. Ever think of that? People - no matter which political party they align with - believe things that suit their agenda. Crime is everywhere.

Just like today, for instance. Big news story about a fairly new (and young) police officer killed in Davis. Davis has been touted as this wonderful safe city where bad things rarely happen. Truth is, bad things happen everywhere and eventually even in the once upon a time safe towns.
So true! Detroit and St. Louis are at the top of the most dangerous cities in the US. Oakland is at 3. Memphis, four and Birmingham is five. Cleveland is 9. SF is not on the list - not even in the top 25.
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Old 01-28-2019, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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As of 2017, California has a lower homicide rate than Kansas, is right behind Montana, and is basically the same as West Virginia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate
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Old 01-28-2019, 06:30 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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As of 2017, California has a lower homicide rate than Kansas, is right behind Montana, and is basically the same as West Virginia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate
Thanks for posting this! It's less than half what it was 20 years ago, and even our conservative neighbor Arizona has a higher muder rate who would've thought?! all you see from them is how dangerous California is, and how Arizona is much safer! I guess not.
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