Is Los Angeles more provincial/country-minded than Oakland? (San Francisco, Long Beach: assess, beach)

[malcorub16]

Besides a few white Americans and possibly a few black Americans, who else did you interact with OP?

[jbain99]

Originally Posted by tspoon91

I moved to California from Wisconsin while living in NYC prior to that. I lived in Los Angeles and Oakland and I have noticed that Oakland people seemed more like "city-folks/city slickers" almost as much as SF while Los Angeles people seemed more provincial like people in the smaller towns that I lived in, despite L.A. being big. Is it because a large part of L.A. is residential houses and more spacious than cities like Oakland and SF.

I just had to laugh at this comment. I live in the bay area and very few cities outrank our reputation of provincialism. I think you confuse the definition of “provincialism” with suburbanism. Provincialism has nothing to do with lifestyle. You can take the train to work and live in a high-rise but that doesn’t make you more worldly than someone who drives to work and lives in a house.

[eureka1]

There are only four million people in LA. Which were you referring to?

[Angelino19]

Originally Posted by tspoon91

I moved to California from Wisconsin while living in NYC prior to that. I lived in Los Angeles and Oakland and I have noticed that Oakland people seemed more like "city-folks/city slickers" almost as much as SF while Los Angeles people seemed more provincial like people in the smaller towns that I lived in, despite L.A. being big. Is it because a large part of L.A. is residential houses and more spacious than cities like Oakland and SF.

I don't know where you lived in LA, but I have to disagree with your assessment. Angelino's tend to be wanderers and don't confine themselves to any particular neighborhood. There's just to much to do and see in LA and because of great year round weather, Angelino's love being out doors and are always on the move. From the mountains to the sunny SoCal beaches, Angelino's are always in search of that new and interesting experience, whether it be found in their own neighborhood or 30 miles away.

[Angelino19]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

None of those places are more urban than Oakland.

I've been to Oakland plenty of times and although Santa Monica has a population of only 93,000, it has distinctly urban feel, much more so than Oakland. I'd say the urban feel of Oakland is on par with that of Long Beach, a city of close to 500,000.

[Angelino19]

Originally Posted by Losfrisco

Have you ever heard of neighborhood in Los Angeles called "Hollywood?" You skipped that, as well as Koreatown (high rises, nightlife, finance), Westwood (has its own skyline comparable to downtown Oakland), Century City (same), Beverly Hills (same), Long Beach (same, 40% more populated than all of Oakland, more densely populated by far), Santa Monica (same with density), Universal City/North Hollywood, Warner Center, Culver City (historical studio/entertainment hub with its own historical downtown), West Hollywood (world class nightlife district with The Comedy Store, Improv, Laugh Factory), Pasadena (historical city, aerospace).

Other than that, your post is spot on. Oakland all the way...I can see the bright lights of the Fox Theatre from here!

I agree, all of the above neighborhoods are very urban and with a great city vibe.

[Angelino19]

[quote=Angelino19;55108483]I've been to Oakland plenty of times and although Santa Monica has a population of only 93,000, it has a definite urban feel, much more so than Oakland. In the past few years downtown Long Beach, with a population larger than Oakland, has developed into quite an entertainment hub also, with new restaurants, cafe's and bars, along with several new and modern apartments complexes now dotting the downtown landscape. IMHO both downtown Santa Monica and Long Beach have more of an urban vibe, day and night, than does Oakland.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Angelino19

I've been to Oakland plenty of times and although Santa Monica has a population of only 93,000, it has distinctly urban feel, much more so than Oakland.

Haha you clearly have NOT been to Oakland. Just stop it.

[Gentoo]

[quote=Angelino19;55111531]

Originally Posted by Angelino19

I've been to Oakland plenty of times and although Santa Monica has a population of only 93,000, it has a definite urban feel, much more so than Oakland. In the past few years downtown Long Beach, with a population larger than Oakland, has developed into quite an entertainment hub also, with new restaurants, cafe's and bars, along with several new and modern apartments complexes now dotting the downtown landscape. IMHO both downtown Santa Monica and Long Beach have more of an urban vibe, day and night, than does Oakland.

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Haha you clearly have NOT been to Oakland. Just stop it.

Yeah LOL Santa Monica is nice and all but I disagree with that assessment.

Here's my take, I've been to 40 states and most large cities. Oakland and LA are both very urban just in different ways. Los Angeles is urban in a typical sunbelt city sort of way. Oakland, on the other hand, is urban more like a northern city if this makes any sense.

[18Montclair]

[quote=Gentoo;55122296]

Originally Posted by Angelino19

Yeah LOL Santa Monica is nice and all but I disagree with that assessment.

Here's my take, I've been to 40 states and most large cities. Oakland and LA are both very urban just in different ways. Los Angeles is urban in a typical sunbelt city sort of way. Oakland, on the other hand, is urban more like a northern city if this makes any sense.

Yes it makes total sense.